Texas A & M Adjunct Sentenced to Nineteen Years Prison

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  1. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

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  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    "I hereby sentence you to nineteen years - and thank you for your service!" :oops:

    I see your point, Charles. No problem there. It is perhaps uh.. something, I'm not sure what, that the writer at least pointed out that this man was less-than-honourably discharged from the Navy, and also let go by the County.

    3-time loser: Navy, County, crime. Will he be adjuncting from his cell?
     
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  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    It wasn't me! Honest! I got an honorable discharge!
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's good. I'd hate to have to start calling you Judge Dredd!
     
  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    But I DO wish I had a silver headed Judge Doom walking stick!
     
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  6. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    I never had any doubt. Were you JAG? After nearly two decades working at a Defense agency I ever stopped being amazed at how differently the other services employed their lawyers, particularly the Army.
     
  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    No, Supply Corps and restricted line.
     
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  8. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Awesome! I was pers/admin all the way, of course we all had to fulfill our military duties.

    So many things us squids just did. The Army is like Wait just a minute, did legal clear this?
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    There's reason for that, at least, so the "no shit sea story" goes. The Navy established its JAG Corps at about the time there was some gigantic scandal in connection with Navy officers doing legal work (allowed if they had the right Code). Anyway, the Navy decided to restrict its JAG lawyers to courts marshal and continue to rely on civilian OGC lawyers for everything else. I worked with a couple of OGC attorneys while doing my Reserve duty. Very sharp. As to the sea story itself, I offer no guarantee of accuracy.
     
  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    But it is "pretty to think so."
     
  11. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Makes total sense to me. One of my last government roles was Legal Administrator for a Defense Agency OGC. Of my dozen attorneys (all but one were former JAGS - Army and Air Force, no Navy - no Marines), four worked exclusively on contract matters. In conversation with my attorneys and fellow Legal Administrators (mostly Army Warrant Officers), I learned the Army and Air Force have many more lawyers and much more specialization. When I was in a Navy ship or squadron some poor junior officer would just get appointed Legal Officer. He or she had to communicate up a command level or two jus to have a conversation with an actual zJAG. I have the greatest respect for anyone who survived being a Surface Warfare Officer. Just a brutal upbringing education and Training wise in my opinion.
     
  12. MasterChief

    MasterChief Member

    Surely this former LCDR has regrets now. Lost pension, benefits, respect, and his freedom. The Navy should continue flushing out toxic members!
     
  13. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Did you go LDO? Did you leave the Mess when you were a Master Chief?

    You know that's the way of things. SWOs have a brutal life as JOs.
     
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  14. MasterChief

    MasterChief Member

    Chief,
    I was a Petty Officer Third Class. Never made a full twenty, but medically retired. I enjoy playing Halo with my grandkids, hence the monkier.
     
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  15. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the occasional Navy warrant does seem to get into trouble...who was that guy that ran the spy ring? Walker?
     
  16. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Oh! I get it now.
     
  17. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    As you know, only two Navy Enlisted promotions require an indoctrination, Petty Officer Third Class and CPO. Putting on that Chevron was huge.
     
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  18. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Hi Charles, I understand PO3 requiring an indoc because you're now an NCO but what makes CPO different than the previous ones?
     
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  19. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Great question. Navy Enlisted Ranks are broken into thirds: Seamen, E- 1,2, and 3 - Strikers - Let us decide if you are worthy of an apprenticeship.
    Journeyman, E- 4, 5, and 6. Show us your expertise. at this point we need to see demonstrative leadership potential.
    Chiefs ,- E 7, 8 and 9. Solid leadership. Onboard ship or squadron, only the Commanding Officer, Executive Officer, and the Chief's Mess are considered professionals. The Chiefs be technical experts. Navy Chiefs have the additional responsibility of training up junior officers. Chiefs also go through a six to eight week initiation, now referred to as the journey. Some try to argue it's just unnecessary hazing. Try are completely missing the point. World's largest fraternity, don't you know. Tom Brokaw gives Navy Chiefs a special shout out in "The Greatest Generation."
     
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  20. MasterChief

    MasterChief Member

    Great explanation. One caveat is "crossing the line" when a sailor transforms from a lowly polliwog to a full-fledged Shellback! In the eyes of King Nepttune, we are all equally worthless until crossing the line. I come from the days of bruised asses and scraped hands and knees from crawling on nonskid! Rank had zero meaning crossing the line....
     

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