New Ph.D. program and DBA specializations

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by chrisjm18, Aug 28, 2021.

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  2. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I wish they have a Ph.D. focusing on Technology and Engineering online.
     
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  3. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    You're already at Cumberlands, would you transfer?
     
  4. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Maybe, I always prefer Liberty University over the University of the Cumberlands.
     
  5. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    I think it is important to note that the new PhD in Organization and Management is not covered under their ACBSP accreditation at this moment. For some, that may not matter at all. For others, it could make a difference.
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Under what circumstances would ACBSP accreditation--or it's lack--make a difference?
     
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  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    From the catalog regarding the difference between a DBA and a PhD:

    Liberty’s Doctor of Business Administration (DBA) differs from a Ph.D. in Business Administration by focusing more on practical application than on broader theory. Ph.D. programs tend to focus more closely on researching new models or gathering and interpreting data.

    That sounds about right. In another thread, a poster likes to insist these differences don't exist or don't matter (it's hard to tell which). But Liberty seems to know.

    Both the PhD and the DBA offer a concentration in Executive Coaching. However, Liberty does not appear to have ICF (International Coaching Federation) accreditation. This makes it more difficult for aspiring coaches to have their training recognized as they strive for one of ICF's certifications. (I am an ICF Professional Certified Coach, or PCC.)
     
  8. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    Academic Positions in smaller AACSB Accredited programs will often state that a PhD or DBA from an AACSB or ACBSP accredited program is required for a position. Other than that, it may not matter. But it is still an important consideration for someone who may want to make an attempt at academia.
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    This I have not seen.
     
  10. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I have also not seen this. I have seen ACBSP-accredited schools require ACBSP accredited degrees. If one can't earn an AACSB-accredited degree for whatever reason, I don't see what's wrong with earning one that is ACBSP-accredited so that you at least have the option of teaching at those schools.
     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I don't think it is accurate to lump together AACSB and ACBSP.

    Ichiro Suzuki had more hits (4,367) than anyone in professional baseball. But baseball's hit king is still Pete Rose.

    The night Wilt set the single-game scoring record at 100 points, his teammate Al Attles joked with reporters that "me and Wilt went for 116 points tonight."
     
  12. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Do AACSB, ACBSP, and IACBE accredit Organization Management and Leadership programs?
     
  13. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Embry-Riddle is not accredited by the AACSB, but is accredited by ACBSP. I still feel this is a distinction without a difference (being accredited by ACBSP). I don't see any practical advantage for students, and only a tiny one for prospective academics.

    Interesting that the listing makes a distinction regarding the for-profit/NFP status of the source of one's terminal degree.

    Also, the MBA used to be considered a terminal degree, but I suspect that's not the case anymore. In fact, it was hard for MBA grads to go to PhD programs since they didn't do a scholarly master's. Again, I suspect that has gone away. In this case, "terminal degree" is superfluous and they should just say what kind of doctorate they want.
     
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  15. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    Pretty common at the smaller AACSB programs. The school I am an Adjunct at specifically states “AACSB or ACBSP” in their job postings for faculty positions.

    You will not see that in your larger business programs but absolutely common in the smaller schools that are in rural areas.
     
  16. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Maybe not AACSB. I know that ACBSP grants accreditation to organizational development programs. Cabrini University's doctoral programs in organizational leadership and change have ACBSP.

    Similarly, IACBE grants accreditation to Indiana Institute of Technology's Ph.D. in Global Leadership with specializations in:
    1. Academic Administration
    2. Organizational Management
     
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  17. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    This is amazing! I wonder what their experiences were with those who held doctoral degrees from for-profit schools. Currently, they have business faculty with for-profit degrees.
     

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