Trump is the Perfect Sore Loser

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    One of the Georgia runoff races has been called for the Democrats and the Democrat is ahead in the other. I remember how slow the media punditocracy was to state that the 2018 election turned into a Blue Wave. If Ossoff wins, I wonder how long it will take the chattering classes to realize that 2020 was an unmitigated disaster for the national Trumpist GOP. Yes, they picked up a few House seats but Nancy Pelosi still wields the gavel. The Democrats won the White House and through that they also will (maybe) gain control of the Senate leaving the GOP with nothing. I also wonder if Ted Cruz regrets signing off on Mo Brooks' baseless and pointless election challenge. The Democrats and the rest of the GOP Senators will make him pay for embarrassing them.
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    From what I read the Reverend Raphael Warnock and now first black GA state Senator is a descent person who will do good for GA.
    Congratulations on the win. He is a senior pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta and its a fine addition to the US Senate.
    Ossof I know noting about, he appears to be very young. Indeed he is leading by some 18,000 votes and most likely to win the Senate seat.

    On a national and international level I think China and Iran are happy with the Dem's taking majority in the upper house and now both houses.
    Iran already demanding 90 billion in losses due to sanctions. Putin will be eyeing on annexing another chunk of land from neighbors.

    Maybe President Biden and the Dems prove me wrong. Also in the upper house there possibly will be some senators who may vote as they see, so getting majority 51 votes will not be easy for any side.

    Time will show.
     
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  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The GOP will remain to the party to go to in order to have damage in a different direction.
     
  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I wonder what will happen. The Trumpist national GOP's relentless and baseless attacks on swing-state Republican state and local officials won't soon be forgotten or forgiven. That matters going forward. The support of the local and state Party is almost indispensable in any election and especially in a national election. We may see the two groups separate. There will certainly be no love lost on either side.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    There will be competition between "Russia spy's" vs "Chinese spy's" and the media making $$$ of it.

    Will Bidens reset strip Americans from freedom?
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Good chance that by Valentines day election will look like some movie and more pressing actual issues will be in he spotlight such as new stands of Corona virus, vaccinations.
    Dreamers whom I support will hopefully have a relive.
    Immigrant caravans will resume (good or bad) I understand what they are escaping.
    The politicians will continue their Roundabout every 2 and 4 years.
     
  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    So now we see Trumpism for the violent fascistic movement it has always been.
     
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  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The best thing President Trump can do is to call off this protests.
    Tweeter or any other way.
    Peaceful protests OK, violent no way.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This is an excellent example of why cults are dangerous. Especially cults of personality when the cult leader is such a narcissistic pathological liar individual. An individual with an ego stuck at the 2 year old stage of development. The cult followers will believe the leader's lies no matter how many times the lies are debunked. The followers will feel justified in doing things that they normally would never even consider doing. I imagine that Trump's ego is feeding on all this and planning the next stage of his rebellion as the country watches in horror. Thoughts are running through Trump's mind like, "I'm going to teach this country a lesson for insulting me like this. I'm going to make them sorry! They need to fear me!"
     
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  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I condemn violence. I disagree with your characterization of Trumpism. I listened to Trump before they went to the capital and later some 15 min before the unrest started - he asked for peaceful demonstration.
    All sides have their radicals. I'm sure if Trump won some court cases you would see the same from BLM and Antifa etc. You forgot how businesses were shielding their windows etc for the election day.
    I said earlier Trump should stop the protests fold it so to say, he is not getting the 10 days to go back to states to prob the election.

    But from what I see here in play is something else. For the Pro-Trump protesters its like of the colonists' sense of a distinctive identity as inhabitants of a republican society and a sense of a uniquely American identity and an on going rivalry over "who would rule at home", we know its the people who rule at home in democratically elected by the people for the people government.
    Majority of Trump supporters are peaceful working Americans.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The only thing more desperate than whataboutism is hypothetical whataboutism.
     
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  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I would like to nominate this post as the best post in the Political Discussions forum for the past week, at least. Thank you for the laugh!
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Educated whataboutism with high certainty. Almost undeniable.

    Sad day today with all the violence, this went to far.
    A woman who was shot and killed after pro-Trump protesters charged the U.S. Capitol building has been identified as 14-year Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbit, of San Diego.
    Mrs Babbit is understood to have served in the military, completing four tours with the US Air Force and working as a high level security official during her service.
    Her twits from day before show messages about intent to storm - “They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours.....dark to light!”
     
  14. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    The "storm" reference marks her conclusively as a QAnon cult devotee. Sad.

    Lerner, do you want to be associated with these kinds of groups? These kinds of actions? I suspect you'd have a great deal of trouble blending in; it is almost impossible for an adult immigrant to get rid of a foreign accent.
     
  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I'm not an activists at all and if you read my posts I never support such actions nor associate my self with it. I'm a regular working man who happens to be a conservative.
    After 40 blessed years living here, maybe because most of these years I lived in large cities among large immigrant communities even in suburbs away from concentration I think a person without an accent will have hard time to blend in ;-).
    We have a great country and strong enemies who hate our way of life, our democracy and are doing everything to derail our democracy.
    They are plotting all kind of bad tings against us.
    This is not conspiracy theory this is a fact.
    Among spying, stealing our secrets they are trying and always tried to buy elected officials here in the US in order to promote their interests.
     
  16. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    Lerner, gotta hand it to you. They come after you with disgusting comments like this, but you hang in there :)
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Enh, not sure about that one. A lot of conservative groups for which that's the stereotype are actually pretty excited to have immigrants and minorities be interested in them. (Proud Boys, for exmaple.) Yes, there are traditional KKK types, but that's not all that's out there when you sail hard to starboard.
     
  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Dude, Lerner and I hail from the same country, and likely talk with the same kind of accent. I would have the same kind of difficulty gaining trust among the domestic terror groups at the tip of this insurrection. I was attacked for coming "from a very corrupt country" to my face; sincerely hope Lerner wasn't.

    To be fair to the woman, though, she was a conspiracy theory nut - not necessarily a neo-Nazi (although there's certainly overlap).. I wouldn't want to associate with that crowd either.
     
  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    You might be right. I'm not up to date with my crazies' taxonomy, nor there's a particularly good reason to be. What I as an immigrant is aware of is that I'm in the minority. Being accepted as an "honorary White" is conditional at best; not to mention - ewww!
     
  20. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Yes, bad things like defaming this country's institutions and attacking the democracy itself.

    It was the Right who just trashed the Capitol and embarrassed USA before the whole world, not the Left.
     

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