Integrity of 2020 elections.

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Lerner, Nov 28, 2020.

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Testimony by witnesses and experts is considered evidence in federal cases. I agree its easy to make up a lie but if its a sworn testimony then it caries up to 5 years imprisonment.
    FBI is investigating, this may take time lets see what if anything will come out of it.
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Dominion machines were used in 14 Pennsylvania counties. Trump won 12 of them. Fraud! Cheat! Rip-off! :p
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    He's polite, adamant, and takes a lot of criticism without name-calling or other ugly behavior. What's not to like about Lerner? (Yes, we disagree, but that doesn't make him less likeable.)
     
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  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I agree completely! Lerner can correct me if I'm wrong but I think he simply wants to make sure that the conservative point of view is represented on this forum. My opinion is that he does a most excellent job doing that!

    This is exactly why the rhetoric coming from Trump's lawyers and others supporting President Trump is very different when in court as opposed to when talking to the media. It is not illegal for them to lie to the media.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Fraud in the election! IT'S HERE: Evidence of fraud in a Florida election. Where’s the outrage?

    I sure hope Trump's lawyers move on this IMMEDIATELY! Sure, it was Republicans doing it in a state Trump won, but after all, it's the integrity of the election, right?

    Besides, it's clear they have nothing better to do.
     
  6. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    Fauci and covidiots.
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Individual anecdotes, not sworn to in a court and under oath, are meaningless.
     
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  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    A legal fight in GA over forensic inspection of voting machines.
    What's the Secretary of State is afraid of?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/30/judge-freezes-voting-machines-georgia-counties-441342
    Now there are rumors circulating that voting machines disappeared. cant confirm this rumor.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Its hard for me to accept that all these people are lying.



     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Why? There are hundreds of millions of people in the US. You think it's hard to find a few to lie in a no-risk scenario?

    I'll wait for the court filings. As usual, they'll contain nothing.

    By the way, saying, "I have evidence" is NOT evidence. It is an unsupported assertion.
     
  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Do you think that Bill Barr is lying? He said they investigated all major accusations, including the Dominion software thing and they found no evidence of significant fraud that could possibly overturn the election. I note here that Yesterday Trump said that Bill Barr and the FBI were part of the conspiracy to steal the election from him. Do you think that is true?
     
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    They could be shills hired by OANN to boost OANN ratings. They could be folks looking for a moment of fame. They could be people lying because they are sure Trump is being robbed and they want to try to help Trump. They could people that saw something innocent and exaggerated it or incorrectly interpreting it as sinister. They could be hired by the Trump campaign to help cause doubt and cause chaos. They could just be crazy. There are a million possible explanations besides the least likely scenario which would be grand election fraud conspiracy involving hundreds of people including Bill Barr, Christopher Wray, Republican Governors, Republican Secretary of state, etc etc... I should also mention that Trump rips off more cult members by this nonsense by them donating to his "election fraud fight"
     
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  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Bill Barr always appeared to me as a straight shooter.
    His statement if I read between the lines is that - my paraphrasing, while there is evidence of fraud and irregularities, its not significant for changing the outcome of elections.
    Bill took some heat for his decisions, especially Mauler report.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Or they can be really credible persons or a mix of both. Some have their life threatened.
     
  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Much better name for what Mueller found.
     
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  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The Justice Department is reiterating it has not concluded its investigation of possible election fraud and is vowing to pursue all specific and credible allegations of ballot fraud stemming from the presidential contest.
    A statement from a DOJ spokesperson.

    Lawsuit by Trump allies challenging Pennsylvania election results reaches the US Supreme Court.
    The group seeks an emergency injunction from the nation's highest court to block the completion of any remaining steps in the state's certification of Pennsylvania's 2020 election results, which took place last week. The petition was submitted to Associate Justice Samuel Alito.
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    You obviously didn't read the summary of the Mueller Report he tossed out there weeks before releasing the redacted version of the Report. It severely misrepresented what was in the Report, yet he gave it weeks to set in.
     
  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'm not an attorney, but I suspect the SCOTUS won't hear it since it raises no new issues not already settled by the lower courts.
     

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