Trump is the Perfect Sore Loser

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    There is no evidence that has been presented about Dominion voting machine election fraud. Just accusations, theories and lies.
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    While we disagree on many issues. I think President Trump made many significant achievements.
    But here is what I learned when I was a kid, its a quote from the Bible.
    I have seen this play out many times during my life.

    “God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble.”
    "Not by Might Nor by Power, But by My Spirit," Says the Lord Almighty."

    All have a nice weekend.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I would say we haven't seen the evidence that is calmed by the Trump legal team to exist.
    So I'm 50% / 50%.

    Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night, last night, backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for this morning with the Pennsylvania House state government committee.
    Innocent until proven guilty. The company reputation and business maybe on line, jobs as well. So all we got is accusations based on some evidence that will be revealed eventually.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    And have found none.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    What Donald Trump is trying to do now is to subvert our democracy. He's not trying to win by winning the most votes (popular or Electoral College). He's not trying to win by getting votes canceled. (He's lost more than 30 cases now.) He's trying to hold office by getting other elected officials to bypass the democratic outcomes of this election and re-install him as president.

    Because treason is specified in the Constitution, his actions cannot be termed that. But he is a traitor. He is failing to "support and defend" the Constitution of the United States. He is no longer just a crook. He's gone past that. He is now an enemy of the state.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Wow, these are very harsh and strong words.
    Honestly I thought he wanted to delay so evidence can be collected as they are running out of time.
    But enemy of the state?
    Unless I'm missing something.
     
  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yup. Enemy of the State or at least enemy of American constitutional democracy.
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I agree completely. A man with no ethics or morals to guide him means he can do whatever he thinks he can get away with.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Or are choosing to.
     
  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Happily, our institutions are well designed to resist tampering. The Founders knew what they were doing.
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I agree that Presidents actions to pressure MI republicans are unacceptable.
    But when I said I'm missing I meant that he was doing this based on legal councils clearing, that this is legal.
    I read accusations of treason and so, I was surprised.


    Roget's Stone raid of dangerous terrorist.
    What a dangerous terrorist he must be - and they sent tens fully armed agents?

     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Roger Stone was arrested and taken into custody peacefully and without incident.
     
  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    A couple of weeks ago there was all kinds of nonsense floating around about proof coming. For example,

    This one was the O'Keefe fraud. He likes to make up pretend news videos. He even suckered Fox News into showing this one. Haven't heard anything else have we?

    Ah the old voting machine conspiracy lie. Still hoping on that one aren't we? The drowning Trump cult is still grasping at that straw. Evidence coming soon with the time limit for making this evidence known expiring all over the country. The totally evil Democrat election rigging demons stole the election from Donald Trump but for some reason forgot to win the senate and house seats. Oh well, Donald Trump says it makes sense so the Trump cult blindly believes his lies.
     
  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Its not a cult, and there is no straw.
    Something very important for the 70+ million people in the US and my self on contrary to your comments is to be sure that rigging didn't take place.
    And if it didn't happen then its a good thing.
    Its only natural when you hear accusations to check them. The seeds of doubt are planted. I do mistrust the voting machines.
    The first major step was when the agencies cleared that the elections were secure, it was a relieve.
    Maybe the complaints will get their audience in court.
    I think you are wrong about the followers of Trump.

    "The Social Dilemma:" Lies Spread 6x Faster Than Truth on Social Media
     
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  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Someone else would have gotten a heart attack to be arrested like that.
    This looked like an arrest of someone on a level of Binladen or El Capon or some dangerous armed criminal.
    You don't think it was out of proportion?
    I think one sheriff with a warranted would have been sufficient.
    A phone call and possibly Roger would have went by himself?
     
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  16. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    You think so? Good. Next step, you'll see #BLM are onto something. Police actions at Breonna Taylor's were... A TAD MORE disproportionate, even though she's no criminal and they knew that. Want some videos of your idol goading on this kind of crap? Here you go:



    PS: Oliver Stone is a morally bankrupt man and possible Russian intelligence asset. Should the FBI been gentler on him? Perhaps, but he's not in the first million of people worthy of my sympathy.
     
  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I really wish that were true. I'm being serious though. I'm sure that you're going to just dismiss this as part of the left wing media conspiracy out to get your leader and not even consider it like you always do but here it is anyway.

    Here's a thoughtful analysis by a psychiatrist written for Psychology Today doing an overview of the different professional views that have been expressed on the subject.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/politics-psychiatry-and-psychoanalysis/202009/donald-trump-and-his-followers-are-they-cult

    Here's a book and another random article.
    https://www.amazon.com/Cult-Trump-Leading-Explains-President/dp/1982127333
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/inside-the-cult-of-trump-his-rallies-are-church-and-he-is-the-gospel
     
  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Of course the seeds of doubt were planted. This was the whole point of Russian meddling, back in and before 2016. Arguably, this is the major goal of Russian intelligence, and inarguably - they are pouring millions of dollars into RT precisely to pland precisely this kind of seeds. You've been a victim of this, and now unwitting stooge.
     
  19. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Are you a professional law officer and know these things? That is not the way it works. When going into a potentially dangerous situation the best way to keep everyone safe is to have overwhelming force. You also seem to be ignoring the fact that a search warrant was also part of the arrest. They have to go in physically to execute the search warrant. Asking someone to come in and be arrested and bring in any requested evidence proving their guilt sounds like a bad way to try to conduct a search warrant. Why is it out of proportion? You think that this has somehow violated someone's rights or something? What is your actual complaint?
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I'm not a law officer or a legal professional, so I'm lacking in this area.
    I was watching news and saw this. To me and many regular people this appeared excessive.
    This is type of arrest of dangerous criminal and not some old harmless person I think.
    Surprised with your response.
    With CNN reporter waiting there to film the show. A message to Tumpists?
     
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