Tea leaves?

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by nosborne48, Aug 24, 2020.

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This isn't happening.
     
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  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    More mis-statements. They were always allowed but had to observe distance requirements for COVID-19. Trump successfully made them change to allow observation closer - within 6 ft. Not sure that's a really good idea, but they're doing it anyway - at great personal risk, I say. AFAIK observation was never "blocked." More "Trumpery" by his morons - whoops, I should say, minions.

    It's tiresome to have to play whack-a-mole with LIES. "Belarus?" My foot!
     
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  3. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Who's booking this stuff? WWE???

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  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I saw videos , are they fake?
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Biden is on the way to victory based on this and the trend.

    GA


    2,447,343 49.40%
    D Joe Biden 2,445,568 49.36%
     
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  6. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    My gosh, I am stunned it is this close. I just wish the USA could get Democrats into 2/3 of congress to go with the presidency. Fast forward to the end. Seems cruel to just push this off on future generations. History, amiright?
     
  7. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    At this rate he's going to end up with 400,000,000 votes :D
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I'm learning how this works now. A simple search on Google probably turn up a fake news article or a fact checker article that would just have to be ignored. That means the best choice is a search of social media which will find unlimited support for the Trump lies.
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I think the rule in most states is what it is here. Any margin of victory under 0.5% results in an automatic recount at state expense.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member


    What about validity of mailed ballots?
    Post mark and signature? These also vary between the states.
    Do you thing BUsh-Gore SCOTUS ruling about the uniformity "guarantees equal weight for votes" will come to play this time around?
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Elections official in the state of Georgia sated that there will be a recount.
     
  12. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Ok, at this point, I think they're doing this on purpose for the ratings :emoji_joy:
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    Neck and neck- virtually tied in GA and PA- but Biden's lead in Nevada has become more convincing.

    It also looks like AP was right to call Arizona as early as they did.
     
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  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Please link us to the videos you saw. The claims were based on the fact that observers had to observe social distancing. You know, so people wouldn't die. The parties have had the exact same access to observing the process.
     
  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Not always automatic. In some instances, there is a level at which a recount can be requested, but it isn't guaranteed. Then there's another level where it is automatic.

    I don't recall--and I've been around awhile--an instance where a recount changed the outcome of a state's presidential election. It came close in Florida in 2000, but we all know how that ended.
     
  15. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    So far, legal challenges by the Trump campaign have been dismissed by the courts. Something about not actually having any evidence and all that.
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    1. There's a difference between journalism and advocacy. Magness is the latter, commenting on the former. I don't want journalists to tell me Trump is a moron, I want them to report the facts and let me draw that conclusion for myself.
    2-5. Fine, Magness didn't support Trump (as you can see); his goal was to explain what we saw happen.
    6. If you know where there's a really good argument that Abrams actually won, which includes an explanation why the media didn't go ballistic about it, then by all means share it.
    7. From my perspective, less "Yay" and more "Least bad option". Yes, I recognize our perspectives differ.
     
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  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It was on Fox last night, I will try to find it.

    As to PA the complaint was that the observers were 25ft away instead of regulated 6 ft.
    You cant see a lot form 25ft away.

    And yes for the lawsuits there has to be basis.
    I think in PA the state government made changes to the deadlines (possibly for good reasons due to COVID and Post service delays) the argument that only Federal legislature make this changes.
    So the extension is possibly unauthorized and pre - September 2020 law should be observed.
    Again I will let the legal professionals to handle this.
     
  18. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Election laws are written by the states not the Federal government.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Possible I don't know the laws.
    So in PA did state government legislated the change?
    Or the change was made without the legislation?
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Apparently I'm not the only one, though:

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