Nancy Pelosi pushes a new bill to give Congress power to strip “future presidents”

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Perhaps it is the subject of it that is the issue.
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I think PTDS is much more fascinating than TDS. PTDS (pro Trump derangement syndrome) is just a made up phrase to insult people like TDS is. But it poses much greater danger to those suffering from it. People with PTDS start believing all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories like Democrats drink baby blood in between acts of pedophilia and other almost as crazy things like Osama Bid Laden is still alive and Seal Team Six was executed. The most crazy thing about PTDS is that these folks actually believe that Trump is leading the fight against such evil and he's never bragged about it. HAHAHAHA That has got to be the most crazy thought in the world. What makes PTDS much worse is that there is no known cure. It is only expected to get worse with a change in administrations.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Actually this is complete nonsense. If it's 5% of Conservatives it's to match.
    The more important issues at stake. We discussed Marxism with radical socialism and Multiculturalism under these two are major changes that will be made.
    And the constitution that needs protection from the radical left. These are important issues.
    President Trump delivered on his promises, even today adding the third justice on the court, a constitutionalist.
    I hope he wins the 2020 election.
    There is no RDS or PTDS, there is MAGA.
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Lerner, I'm not sure what you mean by complete nonsense. If you are trying to say that 5% or less believe such silliness. then let me say that when you posted this.

    You were posting QAnon silliness.

    Now if you were just saying it was plain nonsense then I agree with you. The clue to that should have been the sentence, "PTDS (pro Trump derangement syndrome) is just a made up phrase to insult people like TDS is." It is as much nonsense as TDS is. Sorry if that was not clear.
     
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  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Some of it is nonsense some of it is not.
    If your candidate wins there will be major changes.
    Media keeping Biden's real plans for America a secret.
    AOC already declared more than once that she vows to push Biden to ban fracking.
    The media is keeping alleged Biden's corruption a secret also! If it was Trump you will have a full-blown investigation, and all the media would be giving it most of the air time.
     
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  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The election of Donald Trump did not create the left hate... It revealed it!

    Declassified docs show CIA briefed Obama on Hillary's plan to link Trump to Russia: Rpt

     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Hannity is only a tiny step improvement over your social media sources. Kudos for posting sources though! A printed Fox news article is worth listening to. Hannity not so much but even so, if you actually listen to the clip it doesn't say anything that really justifies your opening assertions though.
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Maybe in your book, but in my book, he is a huge improvement over left media. I usually find that what he has to say is supported by facts.
    If you want to respond to the content, we can discuss it.

    As to my previous comment on AOC goals.
    New York Post columnist Miranda Devine says people who voted early maybe having second thoughts after the news about
    Hunter Biden's emails and Joe Biden's comments on the oil and gas industry.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I already tried that and quickly learned that discussing the veracity of conspiracy theories with someone that won't believe fact checkers or mainstream media is a total waste of time.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    This is a good thing. Because the left media enjoyed a lot of power but it's losing it.
    This is one of the reasons they are in attack mode 24 x 7. They need to prove they can still control the minds of the masses.
    If you are for fact-checking you would check the facts about what the radical left wants to do and realize they are misleading you.
     
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  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    In response to your radical left spiel.

    let's start off with Rachel Maddow
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=barely-true&speaker=rachel-maddow

    Sean Hannity's turn
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=sean-hannity

    I like what Steve called these live TV shows, that was entertainment. How many times have I presented a Rachel Maddow clip here as a reference? Zero I think? The printed media sources are much better edited for accuracy than the entertainment branch of the news. It is just the nature of the beast.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Perhaps they make more of an effort in print to avoid literal factual inaccuracies, but story selection and loaded words are still advocacy, and both are still in the mix in print. AP and Reuters are better.
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I live in this country since Ronald Reagan's first term as a President. So this means 6 presidents and 9 elections.
    So there was sufficient time to form an opinion and what is good for the future of the country and my children.
    BulshiTVision (TV) decreased significantly.
    The elections year is usually different, but soon TV will go back to bein off most of the day.
     
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I agree about the AP and Reuters. It is just much easier to edit a printed story. The nature of entertainment news (I really like that characterization of yours.) is live interviews and more free wheeling dialogue makes the accuracy editing almost impossible sometimes.
     
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This QAnon thing is growing. I'd strongly suggest that you no longer venture down that rabbit hole. I suspect it is only going to grow further over the next few years and only provides a false sense of security. Nothing good can come of it, at least that is my view. Perhaps instead check out https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=history+of+conspiracy+theories&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Sadly, given how much culty behavior we've seen, I expect that ship has sailed. It's like when me again lost his marbles over this.
     
  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Part of what makes these conspiracy theories so attractive is the self contained complete logical beauty of the thing. I'm talking about conspiracy theories in general here. The news is messy with lots of unknowns, unclear motivations, and confusing contradictions. Conspiracy theories do away with all of that. The radical right seems especially prone to them. My parents had a couple of John Birch Society meetings at my house when I was in my young teens. This was after the 1964 civil rights act and they were in the process of moving from Democrat to Republican like most of the racists in the country have now. The JBS conspiracy theories had similar appeal as QAnon. At least from my point of view.

    I saw the fiery Q me again had for his picture. I assumed it stood for QAnon. Too bad he can't fill us in on what specific pieces of the QAnon story he is personally responsible for. On second thought, I really don't want to know. ;)

    Folks can get sucked into these kind of things but they can also escape. Let's hope for escapes sooner rather than later.
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member






    Censoring by the High Tech oligarch

    Ted, is escalating very important issue.
     
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  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

     
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  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Touché :)
     

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