Mouthwash could 'inactivate' human coronaviruses that cause infections like the common cold

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mouthwashes-could-inactivate-human-coronaviruses-that-cause-the-common-cold-232959144.html

    Kill the virus as soon and as much as possible. Don't let it incubate.

    While mouthwash is used in the mouth, a major gateway into the body our through, and we know all kind of bacteria, microbes, and viruses get into the mouth.
    Another area is our nasal passages.
    It is highly recommended by MD's to swab these passages daily of every other day with substances that kill viruses.
    Some MDs recommend acidic, substances like lemon juice. Others use 75% and higher alcohol swabs.
     
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Alcohol-containing mouthwashes are known to be carcinogenic - hence the proliferation in recent years of no-alcohol brands. You win some, you lose some, I guess.
     
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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Good warning, I think the article states some mouthwash.
    Generally, there is no scientific consensus about this.
    Alcohol‐containing mouthwash may cause an elevated, but not statistically significant, risk for oral cancer among patients who neither smoked cigarettes nor drank alcohol.
    It is hypothesized that alcohol mouthwashes act as a carcinogen.
    There are some studies, like in Australia that seem to support your warning.
    But better safe than sorry.
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It may be more than a hypothesis. I heard from the lips of an MD I respect that people who drink alcohol have 5% more cancers of the head and neck than non-drinkers. Maybe these stats are skewed by those who drink heavily - I dunno. Immaterial to me. Quit entirely 15 years ago - solely because 90% of my booze money was going to taxes. I hated that. I was careful to put away ALL the money I saved and 15 years of it has added up nicely (booze is expensive in Canada).

    I quit smoking 43 years ago and made the mistake of never putting the money away. Smokes were 80 cents a pack when I quit - here they're around $12 now. I learned my lesson about not putting the money away, so I did , religiously, when I said goodbye to Johnnie Walker and Jack Daniel etc. That cigarette money I should have saved is probably WAY over $100,000. I console myself with the thought I'd probably never have seen my grandkids if I hadn't quit smoking - so who cares about the money I didn't save. I did OK for saving, anyway...
     
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  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I wonder if they controlled for smoking. I would imagine there is a strong correlation there.
     
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I believe the risk advances enormously, Rich. At least for throat cancer. I read up on this once a long time ago and if I'm not mistaken, it's more like multiplying the two risk factors together, instead of adding them. On a personal front, over the years, I've known several people who died of this disease. If memory serves, all those people I knew - every single one, who died of this disease - were both heavy smokers and heavy drinkers. It seems one might dodge one bullet - but not two.

    At least two of my top favorite blues musicians also died of this disease: Lightnin' Sam Hopkins and Big Bill Broonzy. Sadly, these wonderful artists, too, fit the profile as described above. A great loss for American music.
     
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    One of the four famous people I'd most like to have dinner with, Tony Gwynn, died like that. He wasn't a smoker nor a (known) drinker, but he used smokeless tobacco all his adult life. He just couldn't quit and it killed him.

    (My other three are Carl Sagan, James Randi, and Ricky Jay. There's a fourth, not quite so famous, with whom I have, can, and shall again dine.)
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This feels like, "Hey, if the black box is designed to survive a plane crash, why don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff?"
     
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