Russian MBA and DBA. Total Tuition Below 10k

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by asianphd, Apr 22, 2020.

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  1. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Yes they follow the EQF, "equivalent" is exactly as that, just like in any area within the European Union, they will be assessed or evaluated as equal.
    In short I will skip a few levels, the EQF is as follows: Level 5 = HND, Level 6 = Bachelors, Level 7 = Masters, Level 8 = Doctorate
     
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  2. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is - and it can usually be transferred to a Master's programme. They are called "Top-Up Programmes". You will find a lot if you do some research; if not and if it interests you, feel free to contact me.
    Additionally, I would like to point out I managed to transfer credits from a Level 7 Award I did to an MBA programme in Austria.

    However, if you want to do something similar, take care that these Level #whatever Diplomas are accreditated. Any Ofqual-regulated body should do.


    Best regards,
    Mac Juli
     
  3. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    There are pros and cons with these Level 7 and level 8 qualifications. The main pro is that some (Not all) Universities honor them so you can upgrade to an MBA or DBA and decrease cost of education.

    The main con is that nobody knows what they are in the business world other than some people in the academic world. I have a level 7 qualification in Accounting that nobody wanted to recognize so I upgraded to a MSc in Accounting. The problem with this approach is that your MSc transcript only shows dissertation and you still have to deal with the problem that nobody knows what a level 7 diploma as the credits from the diploma dont show in the transcript.
     
  4. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    OK...? I have had another impression - but maybe it depends from body to body? A CMI / ILM qualifications in leadership or management seemed to be rather well-known.
    Well, at least in the UK.
     
  5. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I guess my problem is that I live in Canada. Those diplomas might have market recognition in the UK or other parts of the world but not so much in Canada or the US. They are good to save money but need to be upgraded into a Masters so the prospect employer can recognize them.
     
  6. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    I see. But well, we can easily agree on their potential to save a LOT of money...
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Depends: Now Your Master's degree is at level 7 but you can have a certificate and it also can be level 7 but less credit so it's not a degree.


    The UK divided the qualifications into 3 categories.
    Award (level 1 to 8) up to 12 credits
    Certificate (Level 1 to 8) up to 36 credits
    Diploma (level 1 to 8) 36 credits and above.
    So having a Certificate level 7 is less credit than Diploma lev 7.

    One would need to check on the accredited regulated qualifications database for the amount of credit.

    https://www.gov.uk/what-different-qualification-levels-mean/list-of-qualification-levels

    CMI Level 7 strategic management & leadership qualification
    it's a 12-month program with 9 modules. It's an Ofqual accredited so in the US
    And CMI is the Royal Chartered Institution.

    The CMI Level 7 Qualification in Strategic Management and Leadership consists of 9 Units minimum of 66 credits.
     
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  8. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Yes. This is the basis of ACCA/UofLondon route I took for my own Master's. I think RFValve did a similar thing, different society and University.
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I completed a level 7 AIA diploma. ACCA is better than AIA but this last one gave me the most exemptions from my previous work and it looked easier than ACCA. With the AIA diploma then got an MS in Accounting and Finance became member of IFA that at least is recognized by IFAC, then I tried to complete the CPA route in Canada but it is just too many thousands of dollars and work to get the Canadian CPA. The Canadian CPA is just worth something if u complete the Auditing route but getting internship in Auditing is just a real pain. The degree I got is in Accounting and Finance so just took the finance route and left the CPA for good. It helped me to teach Risk Management and Compliance. Getting ACCA is better than AIA or IFA as it is easier to convert to a Canadian CPA (non audit).
    I tried to use the AIA diploma level 7 teach accounting or Finance but nobody recognized it in Canada, even CPA did not recognize it. I switched to IFA, with IFA I was given the equivalency by CPA of a BS in Accounting but I still was required to complete their own graduate diploma and complete experience requirements, of course thousands of dollars later.
     
  10. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    My conclusion of the AIA level 7 diploma is that in the same UK, some schools recognized it while others didnt. At the international level even it is more difficult, even if my resume had (AIA level 7 diploma (Master's level)), people asked me why it is a masters degree if it is given by a professional association and not a University, it just sounds fishy and nobody believed me that it was a master's degree until I got a University to grant a MSc degree.
    There are hundreds of professional associations in the UK and employers are not going to bother about the whole UK accreditation level and what is accredited or not, basically if it is not a University that is recognized by the UK government, it has the same value as a Microsoft Certification or even less.
     
  11. datby98

    datby98 Active Member

    I recently received ad email from EMAS, saying their MBA, EMBA, and DBA programs are ACBSP-ACCREDITED.
     
  12. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Not exactly, they're still a non-accredited institution. The reason they sent that email is to notify people and "phish" them in... They recently became partners to another institution that has been talked about on this board, SSBM - Geneva. This partner institution is "iffy" at best, they do have the ACBSP, but not the country or state recognition. This partnership is to "expand and explore" their reach as they can try to get some more students to think they're legit. I wouldn't enroll, even though a DBA for 12K seems like a pretty good price. This is roughly on par with the UniAthena UCAM DBA for 14K, but with lesser recognition.

    Link: Details - ACBSP (acbspsearch.org)
     
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  13. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I think the best would be expand more money for Montpellier Business School's Digital DBA, at least triple programatic accreditations.
     
  14. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    I think Russian economy will collapse after this war with Ukraine.
    Then your Russian degree may become useless and unrecognized.
     
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  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I think right now, a Russian degree should get about the same respect as a North Korean one, hereabouts. Blame the two Pariah regimes.

    As far as Russian collapse goes - I have no ill will towards the Russian people. Just their detestable leader(s).

    And a collapse of the malfunctioning Russian military machine is to be hoped for. This Atheist (me) is almost tempted to pray for it! :(
     
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  16. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    I just surfed by the EMAS Globe homepage, they now claim to be state-accredited in Russia, which they didn´t used to claim.
     
  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    And that somehow makes it acceptable? :(
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    @Johann766

    Johann, your country, Germany, has gone to great lengths to avoid sending money to Russian Government-backed entities, e.g. GAZPROM in light of recent lamentable military actions initiated by the Russian government, that have caused the loss of many, many lives - and misery for the survivors. And - at a time like this - you would float the idea of sending money to a school there?

    I can't deal with this any more. I'm flat out of things to say, on this.
     
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  19. Johann766

    Johann766 Active Member

    Yes 100 times more acceptable...if it's true
     
  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    !
     

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