Sexual assault claim leaves Kavanaugh nomination in limbo

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  1. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I'm going to have to disagree here. If she's telling the truth [obligatory reminder that we still can't know either way] then she's done everything that can be reasonably be expected of her. She got her story out, and Kavanaugh will always have a dark cloud over his head because of it.

    There's absolutely no way that he'll be found culpable in either civil or criminal court, so she's all out of recourse.
     
  2. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    I agree, and that dark cloud will be carried in to the upcoming elections I believe. This fiasco comes right before the elections, which will only serve to energize the Democratic voters.
     
  3. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

  4. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Decimon, that's an excellent find, but the MSM is inconveniently hiding it -- and the MSM refuses to journalisticly investigate it! Who owns and pays for the MSM? o_O
     
  5. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Weeell, I'm an immigrant voter. I would not vote for a CPC candidate, no matter how fed up I am of the local Lib candidate. Had to go third party last couple of times. The way they court immigrants' votes while also fanning the moral panic over "Canadian values" and "those abusing Canadian generosity" is height of hypocricy. In the Harpercon iteration, Hon. Jason Kenney was responsible both for immigrant outreach ("The Hoh. Minister for Curry-in-a-hurry") and a stupid witch hunt in the Immigration department. My own citizenship file got delayed for 2 years because I was dumb enough to list all of my history truthfully, and the RQ screening criteria he saddled CIC staff with had no flexibility whatsoever. Nothing like having to request my full medical history to submit to Immigration and Citizenship, folks.
     
  6. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Quick question: what d'you gather is a median number of "eyewitnesses" to attempted rape?

    I have daughters; right-wing spin on the whole affair just made the world slightly more dangerous for them. Thanks.
     
  7. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    In this case, the median of zero is zero.
     
  8. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Nope, they didn't "contradict details of her account". They just failed to corroborate it. Which, you know, would also fit your argument just fine. Yet the Republican side worked hard to sear the untrue version into people's brains.

    This, and similar, details convince me that Dr. Ford's account is far more likely to be true than not. Which is not enough to convict Bart the Choir Boy in the court of law, granted. Doesn't appointment to the SC supposed to be higher standard that "not proven to be a sex predator"?
     
  9. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    In all cases, decimon. Attempted rapes tend to happen with some kind of privacy. You're right, it's zero - so Dr. Ford's account does not stand out from the bunch. At all. Choosing to ridicule her for that is.... well, I think technical term is still "deplorable".
     
  10. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    I know, let's have an investigation. Who should we start with? McLean?

    "What did you say to Leland Ingham Keyser that had her feeling pressured to adjust her story?"

    "Did you help Christine Blasey Ford in composing her letter?"

    "What contact did you have with Peter Strzok or other FBI-DoJ officials involved with what is now the Mueller investigation?"

    And so on.
     
  11. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, what kind of privacy is there in the alleged multiple gang rapes with multiple witness standing around watching? And with all the alleged witnesses that were allegedly watching – not one witness could be found. Nay, not one. In fact, one witness completely refuted the claim. Would you like her refutation be re-posted verbatim here? Again? It was nothing more than a "DNC wrap-up smear."

    DNC wrap-up smear explained: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4674689/wrap-smear

    Evil is as evil does.
     
  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Me again, Dr. Ford describes 1 attempted rape, with 1 victim and 2 perps present (Mr. Kavanaugh and Mr. Judge). What in the world are you talking about?

    See what I mean?
     
  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    me again is confused once again. I also Believe Ford. Who in the world would believe that she would make up a rape story, all for what, death threats? She can't even move back home yet. What does she have to gain from that?
     
  14. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Stanislav, no, absolutely not.
    Abner, no, absolutely not.
    Abner, it's a free country. How do you spell gullible?
    Abner, thank you for the reminder that some DNC representatives are pushing Democrats to "take out" President Trump -- and she is encouraging Democrats and Socialists to harass Americans who voted for POTUS:
    • Threat #1:
    • Threat #2:
    Abner, isn't it ironic that you cannot find one Republican on videotape telling Americans to "take out" other Americans? You cannot find one Republican encouraging violence or harassment of others. Nay, not one. o_O

    Several Republican representatives have been shot at, simply for being Republican. That story is available for re-posting upon request.
     
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  15. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Not going to disagree with you but I think there is more she can do. She already made it to the Senate and the judicial committee. How many victims get this sort of attention. She should see it all through. Having a cloud over Kavanaugh is not the solution that is just too easy. Coming as close to an objective truth is the answer. She should go to her local DA or wherever-get the politics out of it? I have been a victim of a priest so I know what it is to be a victim. If I was looking for justice going to politicians won't be my first choice.
     
  16. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Are you still going on an on at Maxine Waters. Yeah, like she is really going to take Trump out. I find the whole thing rather funny, Waters is no threat at all. Get over it amigo.
     
  17. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    She is probably just worried about staying alive at this point. She can't even live at her own because of right wing wackos and their death threats. They have had to hire private armed security at this point.
     
  18. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    That should make her more determined to come to the truth. The professional will investigate the truth so it would not change her physical life one way or the other. These things are done behind the scene so her current physical location does not matter. The very right wing is a small percentage of society, so is the far left.
     
  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Well, if you'd prefer your predator NOT get on the Supreme Court, politicians are your first and only choice. Duh.
    You're a victim who chose not to "look for justice" on behalf of yourself and other victims. That's a legitimate personal choice, you have every right. But don't you think chastising another victim for how she chose to share her experience is unwise? Because I think it is.
     
  20. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

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