Iicse university

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  1. Michele33

    Michele33 New Member

    Hi, I am studying with them, I am doing my PGDA. The only complaint I have is that I find them a little slow on answering emails, otherwise they seem ok.
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  4. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Sounds like University of the People, except I've never heard of this school before. They're not claiming fake accreditation, which is a good sign, but they are not upfront about how their lack of accreditation would affect professional acceptance and certification eligibility of their accounting, nursing and law degrees.

    I can't find any information on their location or their faculty. The former is a huge red flag- unless it's hidden somewhere on a page I can't find, they don't even say what country they are located! The latter is troubling because they supposedly offer doctorates. How? By whom? What are their qualifications? :smashfreakB:

    Their "comments" page also doesn't bode well from them. Every last comment reads like a generic testimonial, peppered with very odd word choices, poor spelling and grammar. Some of them from commenters claiming to have advanced degrees from the school.

    :confused:

    None of this looks good.
     
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Maniac, if you had had time to read the following thread, I doubt you'd have been so charitable in your initial approach to this "school": http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/54137-new-one-iicse-university.html
    Their true location, AFAIK, is in the Dummec Plaza, a shopping complex in the Garki district of Abuja, Nigeria.

    I know you like languages, so here's a bit for you. I'm told at least some of the folks who run this "school" are Yoruba-speakers. Ni yi ńlá kan jegudujera! It works fine if you run it through Yoruba/English on Google Translate. That's where I got it, of course! :smile:

    And I can't even see a remote similarity between IICSE U. and Shai Reshef's University of the People, DEAC accredited - which, BTW is tuition-free ($100 exam fee, IIRC). One is a University, the other a "School."

    J.
     
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  6. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    IICSE University, 3422 Old Capitol Trail, Wilmington, Delaware. Old Harlington University used to be there, as are, I believe, the Institute of Certified Forensic Accountants, USA, the Chartered Association of Business Managers and the Chartered Institute of Management Consultants Canada. If memory serves me right, those are all organisations created by Usman Ali Awheela, an Irish University Business School graduate and West Coast University Panama professor. Professor Awheela, who is Nigerian, also holds a degree from Charisma University.
     
  7. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    I should point out that having an off-shore business license from Delaware is not the same thing as having Delaware state approval to operate a degree granting higher education institution.

    292 Post Secondary Institutions and Degree Granting Institutions of Higher Education

    2.0 Department Approval is Required prior to an Institution incorporating with the power to confer degrees, Operating or Offering any Courses in Delaware

    where 'Department' means 'Delaware Department of Education'.

    Their list of higher education institutions in Delaware is here

    https://www.doe.k12.de.us/domain/157
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    deleted J.
     
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  9. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I prefer to be cautious when passing judgement, but I did point out several concerns and concluded with "none of this looks good." I see you've beaten me to the punch and found out a lot of things that I couldn't find, myself.

    Both the educational model it advertises and its cost are remarkably similar to University of the People. If anyone inquires about IICSE, I'd just point them there instead.
     
  10. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    IICSE University:

    SAARC University:

    I have no idea if SAARC University, http : // saarc-university dot world/home is a legitimate institution in Thailand.
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Neither do I, at present - I'm working on it. All I knew going in was what the SAARC countries were. I read every word of the legal disclaimer on the site - and it's pretty all-encompassing re: denial of liability. Here's a sample:

    "This Document may contain forward looking statement like, but not limited to, regarding scope for further studies, career opportunities for graduates from the Institution. Such forward – looking statements contained herein are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in the forward – looking statement. The Institutions undertakes no duty to update any forward – looking statements."

    Hmmm...

    J.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  13. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    @johann

    It might interest you to know that a graduate of IICSE University has found a career at a university whose founder, well, let's say disagreed with us.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    SAARC U. in Thailand is actually not in a SAARC country. Those countries are Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. I note from his name that the founder of SAARC-U. Thailand may be a Pakistani. Perhaps this is a strategic move to gain acceptance by students from Pakistan, which is a sAARC country. It was reported in one of the Indian articles that Pakistani prospective students were reluctant to enrol at SAARC-U. India as the Indian government required police reporting, to which they objected.

    J.
     
  15. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    'SAARC university' seems to be an older name for what is now known as South Asian University.

    HOME - SAU - South Asian University

    https://thewire.in/42613/south-asian-university-held-first-convocation-ceremony-but-problems-persist/

    'SAARC' is the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation, a regional association of south Asian nations that apparently founded this university. Its main campus is in Delhi India, occupying land donated by the Indian government, a SAARC member.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asian_Association_for_Regional_Cooperation

    The campus is still under construction (after several delays) and isn't yet accredited by NAAC, the Indian university accreditor. But it certainly appears to be real and UGC webpages mention it repeatedly.

    If IICSE's website shares text from one of South Asian University's older webpages, I'd guess that it was lifted.
     
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  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes, I know. I think you mentioned him yesterday, in another thread. Sent you a PM.

    J.
     
  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oops - maybe wrong guy. One I mentioned not an IICSE grad, AFAIK, but he DOES have some kind of role at the school you referred to. I think I've found the right one. Sent you a second PM.

    @heirophant. I agree. The text-lifting was probably done by IICSE from SAARC-U's original.

    J.
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    OK - not from Pakistan, but I was close. The President of SAARC U. Thailand, Dr. M. Haider Ali, is a barrister, from Dhaka, Bangladesh. He is Chairman of Cosmo Aviation Flight School. Dr. Ali appears to be politically active, having established the People's Justice Party in 2013. I note also that the SAARC U. Thailand site says that the school was created by a Bangladeshi body - The Law and Justice Society.

    Here's a page on him from the Flight School website. COSMO AVIATION FLIGHT SCHOOL - CAFS

    J.
     
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  19. kamzbest

    kamzbest New Member

    Hi every one there,just to pass you some information which convinced me that this university is not a scam, i did my own search on the web and I found some graduated from IICSE university:
    Please type on linkedin these two names the graduated of MBA 2014-2015 :
    - Dr PYIE SONE LIN
    - SINT SINT AUNG

    best regards,
     
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  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You've got to be joking, Kamzbest! How does that make the school legitimate? Lots of people say (truthfully) their degree is from such-and-such a degree mill. Degree mills are still degree mills, despite the endorsement of their proud "graduates." One of these people you named also claims graduation from Innova University - another phony "school," formerly known as "Regent International U." Two worthless degrees. How fortunate. :laugh:

    Both Innova and Regent are creations of Axact, a Pakistani co. that has created over 300 fake "schools" and extracted millions of dollars for worthless so-called "degrees." Innova & Regent are discussed here: http://www.degreeinfo.com/accreditation-discussions-ra-detc-state-approval-unaccredited-schools/51199-axact-universities-2.html

    Kamzbest, I am sure that with your kind of research ability, IICSE will award you a so-called "Doctorate" right away! :laugh: You might also excel in college athletics; your best event is likely "jumping to conclusions!" Thanks for the entertainment.

    J.
     
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