The full lowdown on the Cleveland institute of electronics/WC?

Lets get the full lowdown on the Cleveland institute of electronics? Anyway that has gone there, has completed their degree there, please let us know the whole, real deal story on this school? The Electronics engineering technology AAS degree is so in depth at 254 lessons, and 106 credit hours its very impressive. How is interacting and getting help from instructors? And the most important thing, anyone know of someone that has the AAS degree that has gone on to great career that pays well?
As for the World College, they have a Bachelors degree in Electronics engineering technology, but they call it a B.E.E.T without the S, does that matter to an employer? Why do you think they did that? Anyone attend this school as well? Thanks for any help, info.

 

I'm surprised, no info, no thoughts at all? No graduates at all?

 

One problem with DETC is that they don't provide much public information about the schools that they accredit. This is perhaps because many DETC schools are actually low-budget, shoestring operations with relatively few students (even if they have impressive-looking websites).

CIE/WC posts a quarterly online newsletter which lists graduating students. For July-Sept 2012, they list six AAS grads and five BEET grads. Since those are quarterly numbers, the implication is they may only issue a few dozen degrees per year. So there may not be many grads out there.

 

Sorry, the newsletter links are here for the five BEET grads, and here for the six AAS grads.

 

Well 5 grads of the BEET and 6 of the AAS is not comforting, but that could be a good thing. It says the program is no push over, its not easy and you have to learn to get through it. Thanks for being the only one to reply, hopefully someone else will chime in.

 

It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it may help to explain why you aren't finding people who have attended this school.

One thing I don't like about DETC schools (this is just my opinion) is that it's often hard to get objective information about them. Obviously you want some reliable info before you invest thousands of dollars. DETC, as an independent accreditor, should be in a position to provide students with detailed info on the schools that they evaluate. But they don't.

For example, what is the enrollment at World College/CIE? What are their graduation and loan default rates? You can easily get this kind of info for any RA school, but not in this case.

 

Right I agree, that info should be available. If you dig VERY, VERY deep on Penn Foster's website you can find their graduation rates. Some program OK, some not so good, some downright horrible. I checked it out a long time ago, and my program the Electronics technician program was 37% passing rate which is not good, but its highly technical, and you cannot coast through it. Somehow I graduated so it can be done, and I my friend am no Einstein.

 

To be fair, I highly doubt the average student cares about those things at all. Heck, to toot the horn of DI and the few places like it, the average student is not as nearly as knowledge about these things as we are. So with that in mind, the fact that there are RA's who offer that info is not necessarily a direct indication of public demand for that information.

 

The dropout rate for online programs and independent study programs have historically been high, so that's something to consider when looking at those stats, even in regards to CIE.

Software Engineering and Electronics Engineering are not exactly simple compared to other fields of study, so I'm not too surprised that CIE wouldn't be graduating a lot of people.

 

Please forgive me for the typos and grammar errors. It's been a long day :-(

 

Hello pfelectonicstech,

I spent a lot of time on this website looking for an engineering degree that I could do 100% from overseas. Almost impossible. If you have problems paying the tuition at some institutions, it gets even worse. And if your work and family could change your studying schedule (ie available study time) at any moment, than the choice is very small. My purpose was to study because I like studying and, secondly, because it might help my career.

It was not an easy step for me to sign up at CIE for an associate in engineering technology, but I am now half way there, with the plan to go for the bachelor's afterwards.

I have no bad things to say. They wrote almost all the material. It doesn't look flashy or colourful, but it gets to the point and is very digestible. It goes in quite some depth and I am enjoying it thoroughly. I am am delighted to have taken the step and only wish I had done it two years earlier.

I hope that you find what you are lookng for and don't hesitate to ask questions.

 

FWIW:

I'm currently enrolled in the BEET program through WC/CIE.

From a cosmetic standpoint, their online test taking format isn't as polished as Penn Foster and some of the course materials aren't as flashy (some lesson materials looked like they were photocopied - literally).

Even with the low-tech approach, the coursework itself is valid.

Speaking to that point: in addition to the BEET program, I'm also supplementing with Electrical Engineering courses from various B&M and online sources. The foundation I've built with coursework from WC/CIE has allowed me to be successful in those classes, as well.

Ultimately, my plans are to pursue a Master of Science in Engineering through the University of Wisconsin-Platteville's online program (an RA program which DOES consider WC/CIE's BEET degree an acceptable undergraduate degree for entry into its graduate engineering program).

 

Thanks for the review. As a holder of an Engineering Technology degree I wish you the best of fortune.

 

FWIW:

I'm currently enrolled in the BEET program through WC/CIE.

From a cosmetic standpoint, their online test taking format isn't as polished as Penn Foster and some of the course materials aren't as flashy (some lesson materials looked like they were photocopied - literally).

Even with the low-tech approach, the coursework itself is valid.

In addition to the BEET program, I'm also supplementing with Electrical Engineering courses from various B&M and online sources. The foundation I've built with coursework from WC/CIE has allowed me to be successful in those classes, as well.

Ultimately, my plans are to pursue a Master of Science in Engineering through the University of Wisconsin-Platteville's online program (an RA program which DOES consider WC/CIE's BEET degree an acceptable undergraduate degree for entry into its graduate engineering program).

 

Guys, thank you very much for the information, I really appreciate. How is getting in touch with instructors if you are stuck on something? how does the "chat" feature work, well or not so much? If you just follow the material, read the material, should you be able to follow along, and learn it?
I am just STUNNED U of Wisconsin accepts degrees from CIE-WC! That is just awesome news. You checked with them already? They actually accept the credits and everything?
Thanks guys I appreciate your input, very, very much. Oh hey, how are the labs?

 

You may want to pay special attention to the part of terry's post where he states that he has supplemented his degree with courses from other schools. It's quite possible (tell me if I'm wrong terry) that it's these courses - probably upper level math and ? - that have contributed to his acceptance at Wisconsin. I'm guessing he'd be happy to tell you exactly how he did it.

 

You should also note that he is talking about the University of Wisconsin - Platteville. This is a perfectly good school with ABET accreditation for engineering -- but it's not the flagship University of Wisconsin campus in Madison. Platteville is "Pioneer Pete" and Division III football, not "Bucky Badger" and the Rose Bowl.

 

Still pretty impressive. I'm not going that far anyway, NO WAY, NO HOW, but that just lends credence to the degree, to the program. I think its very impressive.

 

Yep, for several bachelor's programs in engineering fields.

The M.S.Eng. is outside of that accreditation. It seems common for schools with ABET bachelor's to have graduate programs in engineering outside of ABET accreditation. There's nothing wrong with this. Further, "ABET does not accredit certification, training, or doctoral programs." But graduation from a non-ABET program, even from an school that also had ABET programs, wouldn't meet criteria strictly requiring graduation from an ABET-accredited program.

Here are all the ABET-accredited programs, at any level, listed as offered online.

 

As I stated above, not necessarily. The supplemental courses probably made the difference.