On Being Called Doctor

Discussion in 'Education, Teaching and related degrees' started by me again, Mar 5, 2012.

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  1. OpalMoon34

    OpalMoon34 member

    Is this true irrespective of age? Are most of us still "building up" until old age?
     
  2. OutsideTheBox

    OutsideTheBox New Member

    That is so wrong, and expensive for other options one can get the title Doctor in some form for just $10 + postage & handling from my Church if one wants either the Reverend Doctor or Litterarum Doctor as a religious title. Add some money for an ID card and your good to go being Litt.D. John Smith or Rev.Dr. Jane Doe. or add those after your name they don't care its up to you.

    And their school above was religious in nature thanks to the 1st Amendment they can issue religious degrees as they see fit, I think he got them for his history of academic work as a Chrisian scholar or something if I recall correctly. Basic thing is it was a research doctorate therefore didn't require classes. I just feel why do all that when my church and others its offshoots makes it easier and cheaper.

    You can call me Doctor though if you care to I have a Doctor of Metaphyics (honorary) and a Doctor of the Universe (non-honorary) degrees from my church both legal and approved under the California states religious exemption you could drive a space shuttle through.
     
  3. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    I would refrain from calling myself doctor in front of anyone who holds a traditional doctorate.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    PhD (Surfology)
     
  5. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I know someone that has a DMin from some "school". She is a smart women with a masters from UF but just felt the need to be called doctor. I refuse to address her as such.
     
  6. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef


    I hope her son (your friend's husband) swiftly took his mother into the hallway and laid down the law about talking to his wife.
     
  7. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    I always find this interesting, because I think being called "Doctor" is really only coveted by a small group of people. Our board probably represents a hugely disproportionate amount of edugeeks. (I made up that word :))

    First of all, I think >90% of the population have no concept of what a doctorate is because they are removed from education at/around/before age 22 or less. Most people probably assume you mean medical doctor when you say "doctor" and that's likely because >90% of the population are in contact with a medical /dental doctor throughout their lifespan.

    Wikipedia shows 2% of the population hold a professional doctorate, while just 1% hold a research doctorate (I'm too lazy to confirm, but that sounds about right). If you draw a flow chart/bracket to show how that happens, you can really appreciate the tremendous accomplishment it is.

    Population that completes high school (filter) population that attends college (filter) population that graduates college (filter) population that gains acceptance into grad school (filter) population that makes it to their dissertation (filter) population that completes their dissertation. And that's 1% (the other doctors don't have a dissertation)

    JUST read this earlier tonight http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/education/27remediation.html which is from 2011, more grim than when I last checked, but is showing that out of 100 traditional students that start college, at 8 years, only 13 will have earned their bachelor's degree. (YIKES) If you only look at 4 years, you see numbers of 2/100 to 7/100 depending on the state. Wow.

    So, if you were one of the eager ones caught in a filter, and are bitter about it, I'd say you're a good candidate for the millish options. In addition, if you make it through, you DO have something to be proud of, don't let the political correctness shame you into thinking otherwise.
     
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  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I wonder what we would call someone with two doctorates?
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Maybe they are called "Double D"?
     
  10. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Personally, I would prefer a Master of the Universe...
    So it's only $10 + postage for a Doctor of Loopholes? Nice!
     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Doctor Doctor?

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    In all seriousness, one of my professors at MSPP told us about a former student who had a Ph.D. when he started, and upon earning a Psy.D., he was nicknamed "Double Doc".
     
  12. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    How about duodoc?
     
  13. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Square? lol
     
  14. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    A masochist?
     
  15. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Double-doc … :smokin:
     
  16. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    LOL or someone with no life.
     
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  17. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    I would say that someone who has earned a doctorate should be referred to as "doctor" in appropriate situations. That goes for Ph.D's, Ed.D's, DBA's and D.Min's as long as the degree is from a legitimate accredited school. They earned the title. I agree with Rich that the same goes for military rank. I have met military people who are retired and wish to be referred to as Colonel in appropriate situations or Sergeant Major or Chief Master Sergeant, etc. They earned it and it takes nothing away from you to give them respect for that accomplishment.

    BTW, I like Associate Maniac Craniac. Nice title. Just giving you your propers man.
     
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  18. edowave

    edowave Active Member

    UF actually allows you to "double major" as a doctoral student, and be awarded two doctorates, with a single dissertation. The only caveat is you have to complete coursework requirements from both departments, and go through TWO sets of comp exams. My coursework and research was interdisciplinary enough to do this, had I known about it earlier. The extra set of comps would have probably killed me though. Instead, I opted for a PhD plus MS from a different department. One of my advisers did this at Ohio State however.
     
  19. japhy4529

    japhy4529 House Bassist

    A masochist?

    Edit: Doh! Ted beat me to it!
     
  20. japhy4529

    japhy4529 House Bassist

    I'll call anyone with a legitimate doctorate (prof or research) Doctor, out of respect.

    However, what I refuse to do is refer to someone as Dr. First Name (e.g. Dr. Dan or Dr. Jim). I absolutely HATE this! It sounds so corny! Chiropractors seems to love referring to themselves as "Dr. [Insert First Name]". Drives me up a wall! :smashfreakB:

    *Husband of an MD/MPH who very graciously does not require him to refer to her as Doctor at home, just "The Boss". :nono:* :tongue1:
     

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