Rememebr my last thread on this? Well the schools fed-x'ed the student a nasty letter, places a copy in their permanent file etc. I gave her a big fat zero on the assignment. So I run her final paper through the ol' checker and it bounces back with a word-for-word 94% match.....It takes real nerve to do it a second time within a few weeks of each incident. Just think...she wants to be a social worker too!
Stupid is as stupid does If someone is a cheater in their heart, then they'll always be a cheater in their heart. However, that particular cheater appears to be downright stupid!
Makes me think of a line from a movie, "Who is your tailor? I ask because your ba**s must be this big (holding out hands)"
LOL Wow. Well, do we need social workers so badly that we would take any who potentially forges reports, lies, and cheats? I think about how over worked social workers are- imagine when she is over worked and can't find enough hours in the day...it's easy just to lie and SAY she did a home visit- when in reality she just didn't get to it....when faced with the temptation of a difficult situation, what will she choose? Once a cheater, always a cheater. Think of yourself as protecting her future cases. I think social workers, as a whole, should have very high integrity. The stakes are very high.
I have helped high school students and college students with their papers - I was surprised how ignorant some of them were about plagiarism. They thought finding the answer to a question in an encyclopedia or in a library book (this was before the Internet as it is today) and copying it was acceptable. So in this case your student may not understand plagiarism,
Agreed - she should be expelled for plagiarism, plain and simple. I'm sure she was made aware of possible consequences for plagiarism at the beginning of the course?
Sadly, I suspect this goes on a LOT more than we realize, and it's only a small percentage of very diligent professors who catch it. I've talked to a surprising number of young people who very casually mention getting parents or friends to write papers for them, as though it's an everyday occurrence, and I actually got into a rather long discussion with the parent of a 20 year old girl who felt she "had" to write papers for her daughter's college classes, because the daughter wouldn't otherwise pass the class... and the kicker is that the mother was a primary school teacher! Somehow, people got the idea that the end justifies the means. And I think some of that mindset is why our banks, wall street, mortgage system, and so forth are so completely messed up; these same kids who saw no problem with plagiarizing in high school and college see no problems with fabrication and falsification in their careers in the business world.
..considering some of those grads will be future leaders (business, political and other) - if one can't pass a class due to their writing, then either take more courses or pursue a trade.. I am flabbergasted at how much business correspondence I read where the basic writing skills are appaling ( "their" or "there" for "they're", "your" for "you're", etc). Rather than encouraging this type of individual by doing work for them, parents and educators alike would be better off to show those individuals the correct way...