Non-Residency DBA or PhD Bus. Programs

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  1. AlanG1976

    AlanG1976 New Member

    Hello:
    I have just completed my MBA at a provincial B&M (University of Manitoba) and am interested in pursuing further education in the business area, specifically; the role of human resource development as it relates to Executive/Board of Director performance. Ultimately, I would like to see my career continue towards progressive management roles and perhaps teaching/consulting positions as well. I am currently employed as a senior business analyst with the provincial government (overseeing crown corporations); however, given that I am the primary earner in the family, I cannot afford to leave my job for academic pursuits.

    I would appreciate anyone's input/advice on a reputable/relevant institution whereby I could obtain a DBA or PhD in Business with zero-residency requirements. As well, any advice as to which program would be more beneficial to my career plans. (I have done some preliminary web research and some searches on this site but have not yet located what I am looking for). Thank you.
     
  2. sshuang

    sshuang New Member

    I am currently looking at Swiss Management Center. It has zero-residency requirement. However, you need to go to Switzerland for final grand exam and dissertation defense. The program is also reasonably priced.



     
  3. KariS

    KariS New Member

    Other than the DBL or DAdmin from UNISA (South Africa) (which does require you to visit for defense), after much search the lowest cost with minimal on site (defense still needs to be face to face) is Northcentral at about $30k.


    UNISA costs are about $6k in USD, excluding travel. Best I could figure out was it would need two trips at about $5k each (air fare, lodging, food, car, et.c) making the net cost about $16k (optimisticaly as you need to include some phone call also).

    Lowest cost with minimal on site (2 to 4 weeks a year) are the Indian State Consotium at $20k followed by TUI (Touro) at $25k.

    Others with low on site time inculde
    Capella at $36k
    Nova Southeastern at $36k
    UofPhx is at $45K

    Note these cost due not include travel and lodging, and misc. costs.
     
  4. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    Give this a chance...


    It's too bad you're against residency because Athabasca just started a great looking DBA program. http://www.mba.athabascau.ca/Titan/aucimwebsite.nsf/AllDoc/7A83B7140388E99587256E13005DD5C6?OpenDocument

    There are residencies but assuming that you are close to Alberta, you should look into this. Especially because the degree from a Canadian University would have much more weight and name recognition for you than, say, Northcentral University (which is a good program...).

    The residencies are only ONE week per year, which is very managable.
     
  5. AlanG1976

    AlanG1976 New Member

    Thank you for your responses

    I'll look into your suggestions. To clarify, I am not 100% against some residency, I simply know that I wouldn't be able to take off for 4 or 8 months at a time and a number of Doctorate programs seem to require 1-2 years of residency. In terms of cost, the less expensive the better but not if the trade off is a degree without recognition. Thanks again.
     
  6. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    First off, I'm not a Northcentral University (NCU) salesman. ;)

    Having said that...

    I graduated from NCU with a 100% online regionally accredited doctorate. However, it was hard for me because if I have a question, I prefer to get an answer face-to-face because so many nuances can be picked up from the professor. When you're in an in-resident class, you can raise your hand and discuss it -- or you can stay after class and discuss it. If you're doing it 100% online, then you're going to have to rely on yourself more than usual.

    Good luck in your decision.
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The Centre for Labour Market Studies at the UK's University of Leicester has a Doctor of Social Science program in Human Resource Development that is all online, costs about US$25,000 total, and doesn't require residencies:

    http://www.clms.le.ac.uk/courses/doctorate/

    Leicester's one of the world's better universities. If you're interested in HRD at the doctoral level, you may want to closely consider this one.

    Good luck,

    -=Steve=-
     
  8. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Most DBAs that are credible have at least one or two residency components. Here you have few that are credible but might have few trip requirements
    DBA, Athabasca University
    DBA, Charles Sturt University
    DBA, University of Southern Queensland
    DBA, Glasgow
    DBA , Henley
    DBA , Nova University
    DBA, Grenoble
    DBA, University of Manchester
    DBL, University of South Africa
    PhD, University of Pretoria
    DBA, Strathclyde

    There are few American schools that offer 100% online programs including Touro and NorthCentral Universites but both are for profit private schools. If your goal is to teach in Canada, you might find a strong bias against non-state government schools. I would stick to public schools as these wouldn't raise any eyebrows. Schools from the UK, USA, South Africa and Australia seem to have good acceptability in Canada provided they are from public funded schools or private schools with good reputation. I have seen people from schools like Nova, Southern Queensland, Pretoria, and Henley holding full time teaching and adjunct positions in Canada.
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Great find, I think that this is an excellent option given name recognition and price.
     
  10. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Most DBAs that are credible have at least one or two residency components. Here you have few that are credible but might have few trip requirements
    DBA, Athabasca University
    DBA, Charles Sturt University
    DBA, University of Southern Queensland
    DBA, Glasgow
    DBA , Henley
    DBA , Nova University
    DBA, Grenoble
    DBA, University of Manchester
    DBL, University of South Africa
    PhD, University of Pretoria
    DBA, Strathclyde

    There are few American schools that offer 100% online programs including Touro and NorthCentral Universites but both are for profit private schools. If your goal is to teach in Canada, you might find a strong bias against non-state government schools. I would stick to public schools as these wouldn't raise any eyebrows. Schools from the UK, USA, South Africa and Australia seem to have good acceptability in Canada provided they are from public funded schools or private schools with good reputation. I have seen few of people from schools like Nova, Southern Queensland, Pretoria, and Henley holding full time teaching and adjunct positions in Canada.
     
  11. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    I agree with RFValve. If you goal is to practice/teach in Canada, you're much better off with a publicly-funded school. I would seek those with AACSB, EQUIS or AMBA-accreditation to be safe.

    From the above list, the following are AACSB-accredited:

    Glasgow
    Henley
    Grenoble
    Manchester
    Strathcylde

    The following are EQUIS-accredited:

    Henley
    Grenoble
    Manchester
    Strathclyde

    The following are AMBA-accredited:

    Glasgow
    Henley
    Grenoble
    Manchester
    Strathcylde

    The following are triple-accredited and offer the most accreditation "bang for the buck" and should have absolutely no problem being recognised in Canada.

    Henley
    Grenoble
    Manchester
    Strathclyde

    Good luck!
     
  12. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

  13. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    What you may want is "short residency" degree program. NSU, my alma mater, does this in week long classes and seminars. Also, they are likely to become the first of the US DL programs talked about here to achieve AACSB.

    Regards - Andy

     
  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Thanks for this, I haven't seen many advertised positions in Canada that require AACSB accreditation. However, this might change in the future given the US trend towards this requirement.
     
  15. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    I think it has to change (at least in theory). I'm no expert, but I think that having faculty that hold AACSB degrees is a good thing for a school looking to obtain AACSB accreditation.
     
  16. geoffs

    geoffs Member

    Have you considered doing an Ed.D, University of Calgary has one at a lower cost then Athabasca

    http://www.educ.ucalgary.ca/gder/htdocs/programs/item.php?id=5
     
  17. Arch23

    Arch23 New Member

    Baker College

    Well-established B&M institution Baker College (https://www.baker.edu/graduate/index.cfm) in Flint, MI, just across the border from Ontario, offers a distance-learning DBA. I think attending a business conference once a year (the program is three years long) constitutes the residency requirement.
     
  18. KariS

    KariS New Member

  19. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    40K is actually not so bad, you have some cheaper ones but I think the extra 10-15K is worth it as you end with a degree from a B&M. NCU is cheaper but cataloged as an accredited correspondence school (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northcentral_University) while Baker is a private not for profit school (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_College). I think you would have an easier time with a degree from Baker than one from NCU.
     
  20. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    I wouldn't make to much of a distinction between these two schools. While Baker is B&M and non-profit, it has a history as a career college - focused on 1-2 year degree programs. Their move to DBA is a stretch for them.

    Better bet IMHO is to look for a program such as the upcoming Florida DBA, Case Western's DM, Grenoble (or other European program) or Nova's DBA (especially if they get AACSB). For some folks, local schools have doctoral options. For example, for folks in the Detroit or Cleveland areas local schools (Wayne State or Cleveland State) have doctoral alternatives in their business schools for part-time students.

    Regards - Andy

     

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