Detc Accrediting Meeting This Weekend.

Bill, I don't want to start a very long debate again. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I don't really care much of what some people think. That has been my philosophy my whole life. I know what I have, and I'm very proud of what I have achieved.

Thanks.

 

I don't see California Miramar University www.calmu.edu on DETC's www.detc.org accredited list.

 

Ted, it's not in their searchable database but if you look at the PDF "NEW: 2009-2010 Directory of Accredited Institutions" (middle column on the DETC front page) you can see that it's listed there.

 

LaSalle University > Orion College?
Kennedy Western University > Warren National University?

 

Interesting. I wonder why I can't find any mention of California Miramar University's www.calmu.edu DETC accreditation on CalMU's own page.

 

The following statement appear on DETC's website:

“Formal studies have been conducted to measure the effectiveness of the distance education method. All of the research published 1920 has indicated that correspondence/distance study student perform just as well as, and in most cases better than, their classroom counterparts.”

How valid is such statement? Unfortunately, DETC does not cite any references.

 

Here's some highlights that caught my eye from DETC's latest meeting.

As people have already noted, California Miramar University is the only new applicant that was accredited.

Robert Kennedy College no longer appears on the applicants' list. (Trinity's still there.)

Taft University has had a new DBA program approved.

And the University of Atlanta is now sporting an address in... Atlanta, not in Mobile.

http://www.detc.org/theaccrediting.html#act

 

Provided without commentary:

Likely source....

 

I think the main difference is neither of those schools were accredited.

 

The move to Atlanta occurred some time ago ... when they changed their name to the University of Atlanta.

 

The question asked for the names of schools that changed their names to escape a nonwonderful past only to fail. LaSalle/Orion and KWU/WNU both meet that criteria.

 

The rather-doubtful Alabama-licensed Barrington University announced its name change to University of Atlanta back in March 2006. It apparently had changed ownership and it went on to successfully acquire DETC accreditation.

Despite its new 'University of Atlanta' name, the school's physical address remained in Mobile Alabama until just a few months ago. (That peculiarity generated quite a bit of comment on the boards.) DETC acknowleged the switch to an Atlanta address at their June 2009 meeting a week ago. CHEA's listing still has U. of Atlanta at the Mobile address.

 

I believe that Trinity of Indiana is going to have its on-site visit from DETC during July.

 

Hi Ted,

I wasn't disagreeing with you, only noting that the lack of accreditation was the reason for their downfall.

 

Where does one go to do an on-site visit for an online school?

 

The same place students of an online school would go, online.

 

Chip,
I am a student at RKC. The validation process is highlighted very clearly on the University of Wales website http://www.wales.ac.uk/defaultpage.asp?page=E7062
You claim that RKC was a terrible operation. Have you ever visited the school, meet the professor or conducted any evaluation ?
The University of Wales (as confirmed when I applied) conducted extensive on-site evaluations and is routinely visiting the school for the exam boards. They did Validated RKC and judged their standard to be equivalent to theirs and for this very reason I will awarded the same degree of a UoW full time student.

For this reason you cannot call them "clowns" unless you have some strong evidence. To me the University of Wales validation of all the programmes offered by RKC is a clear evidence. How can you even claim that the FT list is bogus or corrupted without any evidence ?

Mike

 

Dear Chip,
as you are not qualified and didn't check the University of Wales link carefully perhaps you should refrain from passing judgement as you did by calling them clowns.

 

I am an RKC student and I don't understand what you mean. The UoW degree awarded to RKC or any other validated school is the same of the UoW member institutions like UWIC, Newport, Glyndwr etc. Which course of action would be relevant? Not to apply on the journalistic speculation that the UoW might disappear?
As the Prince of Wales just announced a £11 million scholarship for his University what you claim seems, at best, absurd
http://www.wales.ac.uk/defaultpage.asp?page=E787
A British University that has not only the Royal Charter but full support of the Crown is not going to disappear just because you or other journalists say that.

This is a public forum and you shouldn't report speculations unless you have a clear evidence or at least you should report objective information.

 

Chip,
which school is "unwonderful" ? Wales? RKC? Please elaborate as RKC programmes result on a Wales degree so you can't claim that RKC is "unwonderful" while claiming that the UoW is just fine.

It didn't stain credibility to the QAA agency and, given that you have little information and expertise on the whole system (you just said that) don't make it sound as it would raise some serious questions other than from an ignorant of the whole British system.

To me something like the University of Phoenix (with thousands of students, sales managers and no research whatsoever) do raise more questions than a British University with a solid QA system. Yet I do not post my personal concerns on this forum unless I have some objective elements.

The number of validated schools by itself doesn't necessary say that the UoW process is sloppy (unless you can prove it).

Does this raise questions about your judgement ? certainly yes.