Citing the concentration in the diploma

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Should Universities Cite the Concentration in the Diploma?

Poll closed Sep 19, 2008.
  1. Yes

    39 vote(s)
    69.6%
  2. No

    17 vote(s)
    30.4%
  1. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Should Universities cite the concentration in the diploma? Some are doing it, but others are reluctant for some reasons, citing the specialization in the diploma can be a plus to future graduates, because some persons are multiple MBA holders(I am) will have a way to recognized studies done elsewhere in that specialization and a way to differentiate the new degree from the rest of the degrees awarded. It does not involve too much design or change to the actual diploma. What do you guys think?
     
  2. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    And if you can please give reasons for your negative or positive vote!

    Thanks!
     
  3. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    An MBA with a concentration in finance is vastly different than an MBA with a concentration in accounting. Listing a concentration allows one to teach that discipline, which satisfies the regional accreditors. It may also satisify an employer who is in need of an accountant.
     
  4. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Thanks for sharing Dr. Me Again. My accounting diploma does not cite but the finance one does.

    BTW: Did you received your Diploma yet?

    I know NCU cites the concentration in the diploma (I like that part):D.
     
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  5. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I don't think the diploma is the place to look for credits taken. The diploma should be general and the transcript would be the place for the concentration. What if you complete an MBA in Management and the diploma states that. You then earn 18 credits in finance, would you now be placed on a narrow path according to your diploma. I prefer general and have the opportunity to speak about specialization or list them on the resume.
     
  6. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    I would say there are exceptions for every situations, some places will put the dual specialization, I don't see a problem to write it, I see a problem trying to explain every degree that has no indicators as a repetitive degree.
     
  7. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Embry Riddle sent me two certificates - one for my Mastesrs degree and one for my specialization.
     
  8. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Wow! To answer your question: yessir, the diploma arrived. Sweet!
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    You're finished? I am so jealous but happy for you.
     
  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    I would prefer having the major/concentration listed on the diploma. My u8ndergraduate diploma did not list the history and political science majors on it. My graduiate diploma does list entrepreneurship on it. I never applied to reveive the diploma for my MBA in Marketing.
     
  11. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    In that case, you should then be issued a second diploma noting that you now have either an MBA in Finance or a Graduate Certificate in Finance.
     
  12. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I was thinking of earning the credits from a different school...and maybe the school does not offer a certificate program.
     
  13. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    In that case, if our hypothetical individual wanted some sort of official recognition for his/her 18 graduate credits in finance, maybe he/she should have found out in advance whether the school offers at least a Graduate Certificate in Finance or, better yet, whether the school is willing to let our hypothetical individual trandfer in his Management Core classes from the old school and apply them towards an MBA in Finance with 18 fresh finance credits.
     
  14. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Question: What do you do if you are a would-be history professor and you have 81 graduate semester credits of history, humanities, and social sciences classes and no way to march all of those credits towards one university in order to make a master's degree out of all those credits?
     
  15. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Ask why they made a bad choice?? :cool: :D
     
  16. vewdew1

    vewdew1 New Member

    I recently pondered the same thing. Personally, I'd rather that the degree listed the focus area, but my situation is maybe a little unique. I completed a B.S. degree at COSC that focused on Project Management. It was explicitly stated as such on my CPS, which the faculty had to approve. The way COSC uses the term "concentration" is a little confusing I think and they are very careful to distinguish the use of the term from any other context than the way they've defined it. For example, they really don't want me say I have a "concentration" in Project Management because they have already used that term in a different way. I have a "concentration" in Individualized Studies, which is how it is stated on my transcript. The diploma itself I believe simply says "Bachelor or Science." This could easily be interpreted that I have a "general studies" type degree without any focus at all. In my case, I also completed the undergrad certificate in Project Management at the same time which probably helps. However, if they would put the the area of focus explicitly on either my transcript or diploma it would save me the trouble of having to explain it on a resume. Sure I could supply a transcript that shows all my courses, but given the number of years, schools, and classes I've taken I just don't think it would be obvious (my transcript looks really messy). Not a big deal really, but it would be my preference if it were explicitly stated somewhere by the school that confered the degree.

    Danny
     
  17. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    In 40 years I have yet to have an employer or client ask to see my diploma or transcripts. All my diplomas are tucked away in a file cabinet in my garage.
     
  18. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    So, they take your word for it without checking or verifying? Perhaps that is one main reason why some individuals (not referring to you) get away with listing degrees they have not earned in many jobs, until they are exposed. All the places I have worked they have asked either a copy of the diploma or transcripts. One even asked to bring the original diploma. I guess difference of experiences and different worlds.
     
  19. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I have never asked to see a diploma or transcript either. The HR department outsources the credential verification process and what ever the applicant puts on the application must match what the school says they have. On my resume I list ·BS – Individualized Studies (Technology & Business) - Charter Oak State College – 2003 . This way it is truthful and covers my "concentration.
     
  20. mattbrent

    mattbrent Well-Known Member

    I believe it depends on the school. My BA from Christopher Newport University does not list "History". It simply says "Bachelor of Arts". My MS from Walden, however, lists "Master of Science" and then under that it says "Education". My wife's BA from the University of Delaware says "Bachelor of Arts in Educational Studies" and not just "Bachelor of Arts". Her MA from the College of William and Mary says "Master of Arts in Education".

    When I applied for my initial teaching license I had to supply transcripts and a copy of the diploma. Kinda pointless in my opinion since the transcript was "official" and had all the information on it. The diplomas are hanging on our wall.
     

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