Information about Euclid University

Hello Sir,

The information you have provided is horriable!

I would like to clarify that i have no any relation/ conenction with this university. I was just looking a low cost Master program.

But I have a question:

AIDs is very common in US, SA, EUand India and other parts of Africa.

Euclid is giving degree of Bangui university and admission is quite easy. So why girls are going to teacher's bedroom to get admission

 

They don't get bedded for admission but to get good grades. I have taught at high schools and universities in several African countries and was once an exchange student at a West African university. Sex in exchange for good grades or helping a student with her assignment is part of the culture. I was considered a puritan and kill-joy for cricticising it. It has of course been a common practice in western universities but with frequent denunciations on the Internet, lecturers are now becoming scared off.

 

A bump, just to further annoy the Euclid University people.

 

LOL omg Im cryin right now. HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!

 

<bump> since it's about to fall off the front page.

 

Bumpity, bumpity.

 

Can I bump it, too???? I'm bored and want to stir up some fun.

 

Does Euclid offer geometry classes?

 

I believe they are approaching this from a different angle.

 

I don't mean to be obtuse, but do you have any proof(s)?

 

Yes, we have proofs but there all in the pudding.

 

Colleages, how come Euclid listed with UNESCO IAU ?

http://www.iau-aiu.net/sites/all/files/international.pdf

 

I guess this settles the oft-asked question of who necromanced this six year old thread and why. :lmao:
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

Being listed with Unesco does not mean anything necessarily good or bad about the school. It means only that it's --uh, on the list. It's like being listed on Google! Some terrible "schools" are on that Unesco list,plus some good ones. I think Euclid is closer to the former. It may claim an African location but in reality, it's run from a "double-wide" in California. I think Dr. Bear scouted the exact location at one point.

It is totally unaccredited and people smarter than me (that's not difficult, I suppose) have done much research to prove this. Usually when a poster says Euclid must be some good because it's "on the Unesco list," it takes 97 seconds or less for someone to issue a hot and categorical denial.

Please - let the danged thread sleep for another 7 years - then we can have some more fun!

Johann

 

Well, being listed with UNESCO means someone with some official status submitted the school. Which USUALLY means it's legitimate, but can be St. Regis kind of thing. I have a distinct feeling Euclid nowadays is somewhere in between. I mean, it's still a vanity project, but now includes some folks in diplomatic ranks, and not just from Lomar.

BTW, that double-wide is, in all likelihood, Fr. Laurent's home. Fr. Laurent was undoubdetly one of the creators of Euclid, a founding Father (pun intended) of sorts, but does he "run" it singlehandedly? I mean, the outfit seems to experience a revival of sorts these past few years. At the same time, Laurent Cleenewerck seems to be busy with his priestly and speaker activities, along with bits of legitimate scholarship. Euclid lists him as one of dozens of "administrators", and on his personal web page Fr. Laurent merely says he "will continue to teach at Euclid in 2012". Alaska cruise gets more mention there than Euclid.
Incidentally, can millish beginnings beget real schools? A couple of former Wisconsin International U. branches are apparently accredited (one is in Kyiv, Ukraine), and Preston U. now looks like real (if uninspired) operation in Pakistan. Thoughts?

 

Preston University in Pakistan has nothing to do with Preston University in USA; rather its a recognized Degree Awarding Institute here.

 

Yes - it is. Dr. Bear gave us a full report on his "site visit" back a while ago. And Eyal Cohen (Accredibase) said his co. spent seven months sorting through Euclid's accreditation claims and found the school to be 100% unaccredited.

Here's the quote from the Accredibase report:

"The college appears to be administered from Laurent Cleenewerck’s home at 873 Kahlstrom Ave, Trinidad, California 95570, although it may have offices in the CAR, Pakistan and Washington, D.C."

Here's one of several threads on Euclid, including other thread-references to some "non-literate threats of the week" that "school" made against D.D. http://www.degreeinfo.com/general-distance-learning-discussions/40970-instant-help-needed-re-trinidad-calif.html

I am no expert on Ukrainian or Pakistani schools - but I find it suspicious when a US-founded school has to go so far abroad to establish any credibility, when it wasn't able to do so at home. One naturally wonders whether this is the country's mainstream accreditation/equivalent at work or just a license-to-legally-grant degrees-of little-or-no-standing, as currently happens in Panama -- and Swiss Cantons.

Abdul Basit, I believe, runs Preston-Pakistan. That is not inspiring either - he was previously a VP of Dr. Maxine Asher's infamous "accredi-critter" WAUC, much cussed-and-discussed in past years. I don't think there is a Preston US any longer. IIRC, it was forced to move from Wyoming to Alabama where it continued to operate (unaccredited) until a "crackdown" took place and its State License was not renewed.

Preston Pakistan once had about nine locations. I believe only Karachi and Kohat campuses had degree-granting authority through the Pakistan HEC and the others are likely closed by now. I have also read complaints from grads of Preston-Pakistan that their degrees were not being recognized by mainstream schools in their own country. It's been a while, but I can probably still find the complaints (elsewhere) if you want the references.

Back then, part of Preston Pakistan's advertising was the prospect of studying in Pakistan for a "fine American Degree" (Preston Alabama - unaccredited). I guess while Preston US still existed, Basit had some reciprocal arrangement with Jerry Haenisch, (Preston US).

I dont think these two (Preston and Wisconsin Int) are the greatest examples of "schools" that started in the US and have supposedly "done well" as foreign transplants.

Johann

 

Two Things:

I believe Basit (Preston Pakistan) and Haenisch (Preston US) were originally partners - or at least both had high positions with Preston US. In the sunset of the Wyoming years, their plan was to open another University - I think it was to be called Fairmount International University. It never got off the ground and Basit subsequently went back to his native Pakistan and became Lord of the Nine Campuses (Preston-Pakistan). That school was still offering "fine American degrees" in its ads until Preston US breathed its last -or even after!

So, Engadnan, though I respect your in-depth knowledge on a wide variety of subjects, I must disagree here. Preston Pakistan and Preston US - definitely connected to some degree at least, until the latter was deceased.

Second:

It sure as hell can! And (too) often is. I've seen plenty of mills with either real UNESCO listings or apparent UNESCO seals-of-approval on their pages. See the link below. I guess some officials can be misled or maybe (gasp!) bribed -- and at least some internet thugs can simply right-click a logo and make it their own!

Bogus Institutions | Education | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization

Johann

 

Oh yes, here's that Accredibase Report I was talking about: Accredibase - Status of Euclid University

And - my apologies. I mis-identified the head of Accredibase as Eyal Cohen. My memory was faulty (again). His name is Eyal Ben Cohen. He has posted here at DI a couple of times. IIRC, he did so under the forum-name "eyalbc" or something very similar.

Not lookin' so great for Euclid, in its search for academic recogition. That's all I can say...

Johann