This is what victory over ISIS looks like:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/world/middleeast/islamic-state-reconstruction.html

 

This is what victory over alt.left Nazism looks like:

https://www.google.com/search?q=nazi+berlin+destroyed&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ6rLws_3WAhWCPiYKHcm7C4cQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=628

 

And in what way, in your opinion, is Nazism alt.left?

 

Alt.left tactics: Antifa, Nazi SS & ISIS

mbwa shenzi, there are many alt.left similarities between Antifa, the Nazi SS and ISIS:

1. Wearing black clothes.

2. Destruction of private property.

3. Imposing rigid beliefs (by public shaming or physical force).

4. Battering (by Antifa) and killing (by ISIS and Nazis) those who disagree with their beliefs.

5. Issuance and control of approved propaganda in an attempt to influence the public:

a) Nazi Ministry of Propaganda and Public Enlightenment

b) Alt.left owned MSM fake news (Remember what Joseph Goebbels said: “Let me control the media and I will turn any nation into a herd of pigs”)

c) ISIS Propaganda

 

Nazism is alt.right.

 

Think outside the box

Says who? Nazism, Antifa and ISIS are all alt.left. The spectrum is from left to right. However, the alt.left says that you must accept the scripted opinion below.

MSM's propaganda box:
"alt.left communism --> MSM centrist socialists <-- alt.right nazism"

But in reality, the spectrum is:

Reality:
"alt.left totalitarianism, Nazism, Marxists & dictatorships --> and the more you move to the right, the more freedom you have --> lady liberty is on the far right"

Which box will you get in?

 

Exactly Ted! me again is just trying to coin a new term.

 

What the Nolan chart doesn't capture intuitively is that you can't much control behavior along one of those arbitrary axes without controlling along the other.

 

As far as ISIS is concerned, I think that you as a Theology student would find it interesting to do a bit of research into why the colour of black was important in early Islam, and later on in Sunni Islam. The Abbasid Caliphate is of some significance in this context, as is the Mahdi, the central figure in Islamic eschatology.

I fully agree with you that ISIS, a particularly brutal offspring of Al Qaida and in many aspects an eschatological movement has brought nothing but destruction, including destruction of private property. The Nazi view on private ownership, however, was a different matter altogether and not very leftist, in my opinion. After the Nazis seized power, a number of companies that had been nationalized in the wake of the Great Depression were re-privatized. And the Sturmabteilung (SA), which was opposed to capitalism on the grounds that it was a Jewish invention, scared the living daylights out of the industry and the army and was brutally dealt with in 1934.

 

An article that shows the downside of the devastation - the cost of "victory." https://www.mail.com/int/news/world/8024022-devastation-raqqa-raises-questions-cost-victory.html#.1272-stage-set2-3 .

J.

 

I don't like terrorists or fanatics any more than the next sane person. But I think it's delusional to define these pictures of destroyed buildings as a "victory over ISIS." if anything, they're a Pyrrhic victory - over cities where thousands - hundreds of thousands - of people who never harmed anyone can no longer live, work, raise families and try to get by in life.

Yes - I'm sure many ISIS fighters were killed. But I've no doubt there are many more left - regrouping somewhere as we speak. A few years ago, I often heard "there are a hundred new Osama bin Ladens born every day." Sadly, I have to admit the truth of that. I also read once (somewhere) there have been only 37 years since the time of Jesus without a war somewhere in the known world - and I suspect a couple of conflicts may have been missed. Wars will never stop. But we have to stop declaring victories and walking away proudly from absolute destruction. It takes a long time to rebuild cities - but lives lost - or totally wrecked and destroyed by warfare - most often cannot be repaired at all.

J.

 

That's what I see.

 

What ran that terrorist recruitment drive for the prior millennium?