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    Quote Originally Posted by jhp View Post
    I am so tired.

    When I listen to radio I am bombarded by politics, even on the "all music" channels.
    When I watch TV about buying homes, I am pressed to ingest politics.
    When I try to enjoy a movie, I am incessantly reminded of some politics.
    When I go to a restaurant, I am admonished to pay attention to some politics through signs.
    I cannot watch a sports even without political emphasis.
    Even when I go to the bathroom, I have to bethink politics.

    Where can I hide from all this?
    Puerto Rico. 100% of the island is without power, 80% of the electric system is damaged, and there are only a few working cellphone towers. Since Puerto Rico is not getting the fast attention Texas and Florida received, and their infrastructure is old, many people could be without power for months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanantone View Post
    Puerto Rico. 100% of the island is without power, 80% of the electric system is damaged, and there are only a few working cellphone towers. Since Puerto Rico is not getting the fast attention Texas and Florida received, and their infrastructure is old, many people could be without power for months.
    I have TDY coming up soon so ... that might be the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuhaus View Post
    Well, two possibilities:

    1. If that PTSD is so severe that something as peaceful as silently taking a knee is a trigger that causes them anguish in their daily lives then I would recommend they seek additional help immediately. Adjustment to meds, additional psychotherapy, something. This isn't a flag burning. This isn't someone screaming that they are baby killers as they walk down the street. This is silent and peaceful. If that is a serious enough trigger then you should seek immediate help to try to be able to function in society again.

    2. If it isn't a clinical issue, then yes, you should get over it.

    That oath was to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. That means you fight equally to preserve the second amendment as you do for the right of people to protest, lawfully assemble, practice their religion (or none) of choice etc.

    Nowhere in that oath was the idea that we should protect and defend the constitution unless veterans find it disrespectful, it makes people feel grumpy or it triggers anyone, of any sort, for any reason.

    You took the oath. You fought the fight. Now, here you are, telling people they are using that freedom wrong. A real shame.
    I can't decide which is more breathtaking or appalling; your lack of understanding about PTSD, or your insensitivity towards our military veterans who suffer from it.
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    I've heard of veterans being triggered by fireworks on the 4th of July but I don't remember anyone suggesting that these be banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizmet View Post
    I've heard of veterans being triggered by fireworks on the 4th of July but I don't remember anyone suggesting that these be banned.
    They're already illegal in many jurisdictions, and those veterans don't go to events with fireworks. In a million years, they never expected it to become fashionable to disrespect them at a sporting event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -not posted, said by Kaepernick
    I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.
    He didn't start kneeling in the public view originally. He remained in the locker. Why did he move it out to the field?

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