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    Lightbulb Pentagon: Foreign Infiltration through Muslum Recruitment?

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    A Defense Department probe uncovered "potential security risks" in MAVNI (Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest), a program that recruits people outside the United States.

    Over 10,000 people joined, but now military leaders are concerned about unaccounted participants in the United States, leading to foreign infiltration.

    The original purpose was to recruit language interpreters, but it ended up including cooks, drivers and other non-essential skills.

    A problem existed in the vetting process. Retired U.S. Army General Jack Keane said, "If MAVNI is compromised, then there's a possibility of penetration and..."
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    Fox News: Pentagon Fears 'Foreign Infiltration' Through Immigrant Recruitment Program
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    Interesting. Not "politics" by any measure though, unless you twist it in a typical xenophobic way. Army recruitment program is getting reviewed for potential security risks; I figure these things happen from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    Interesting. Not "politics" by any measure though, unless you twist it in a typical xenophobic way.
    Stanislav, are you suggested that this thread on policy should be moved to the "off topic" discussions, where this other thread was also moved: "Is homosexuality a sin?"
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    [QUOTE=Stanislav;508195...unless you twist it in a typical xenophobic way. [/QUOTE]


    It's xenophobic to duck a punch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by me again View Post
    Stanislav, are you suggested that this thread on policy should be moved to the "off topic" discussions, where this other thread was also moved: "Is homosexuality a sin?"
    Yes. Also, not much to discuss: DoD tightening policies in one of their programs - I mean, of course they are, they have literally thousands of senior officers whose job is to do that. Yawn.
    You know what else is an off topic? Advertising your own threads in the "off topic" section. Duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decimon View Post
    It's xenophobic to duck a punch?
    Turning it into a political rant about "foreign infiltration" is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    Yes. Also, not much to discuss: DoD tightening policies in one of their programs - I mean, of course they are, they have literally thousands of senior officers whose job is to do that. Yawn.
    Stanislav, the Pentagon program you are referring to deals exclusively with foreigners. Additionally, as a foreigner yourself, it is a very important topic to you, as evidenced by your continued discussion of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    You know what else is an off topic?
    Stanislav, please share your opinion with the whole world -- on the internet -- right here.

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    Advertising your own threads in the off topic section. Duh.
    Stanislav, no advertising fee was paid, so what's your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by me again View Post
    Stanislav, the Pentagon program you are referring to deals exclusively with foreigners. Additionally, as a foreigner yourself, it is a very important topic to you, as evidenced by your continued discussion of it.
    Yeah; most Pentagon programs deal with foreigners; they are constitutionally banned from projecting force domestically. Of more interest to me is a program to train Ukrainian troops; American instructors are reportedly terrific, and the nation can't be more grateful. Seriously: thank you, thank you, thank you!

    Other than me learning about this program years ago and briefly considering enlisting (as a Russian interpreter), this has nothing to do with me. Of course, I would have failed the fitness test if I tried it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by me again View Post
    Stanislav, please share your opinion with the whole world -- on the internet -- right here.

    Stanislav, no advertising fee was paid, so what's your point?
    Who said anything about fees?

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    You really need to try being more coherent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    You really need to try being more coherent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    Yeah; most Pentagon programs deal with foreigners; they are constitutionally banned from projecting force domestically.

    Good thing or we might have had a civil war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    Yeah; most Pentagon programs deal with foreigners; they are constitutionally banned from projecting force domestically.
    After reading and rereading what you are trying to say, it appears that:
    1. There is a significant language barrier that prevents you from articulating what you really want to say.
    2. Or your just plain wrong and you don't know it yet.

    It's probably a little of both. Either way:
    1. It's called the Posse Comitatus Act
    2. It's not Constitutionally based (it's an Act, as decimon discretely noted).
    3. It can be enforced domestically (nationally or regionally), based on specific criteria.
    4. It's an Act that is subject to legislative change, based on the needs of the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by me again View Post
    After reading and rereading what you are trying to say, it appears that:
    1. There is a significant language barrier that prevents you from articulating what you really want to say.
    2. Or your just plain wrong and you don't know it yet.

    It's probably a little of both. Either way:
    1. It's called the Posse Comitatus Act
    2. It's not Constitutionally based (it's an Act, as decimon discretely noted).
    3. It can be enforced domestically (nationally or regionally), based on specific criteria.
    4. It's an Act that is subject to legislative change, based on the needs of the nation.
    Gee, thanks. Do you think the nation needs or might need in the near future to allow the military to operate domestically (on domestic targets, that is)? Is this view widespread in your corner of Trumpist field? Scary, scary stuff. And yeah, I believe the reason it's not in the Constitution is because the standing army is not in it, so framers didn't see the need.

    The Pentagon's mission is to provide a capability, if need arises, to deal with foreigners; that is, to kill numbers of them in the most efficient fashion. So yeah, most of its programs "deal exclusively" with foreigners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanislav View Post
    Yeah; most Pentagon programs deal with foreigners; they are constitutionally banned from projecting force domestically.
    That's not from the Constitution. It's the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (i.e., the end of Reconstruction) that prevents the U.S. Army (and, as amended, Air Force) from being used to carry out domestic policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    That's not from the Constitution. It's the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (i.e., the end of Reconstruction) that prevents the U.S. Army (and, as amended, Air Force) from being used to carry out domestic policy.
    As I said: thanks. It's a policy so self-evident I just assumed it's in the Constitution, even though I've read the document few years back and, yeah, it's not there.
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