Trump asking for Pardons

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

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  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I'm guessing that this is where all those expensive lawyers earn their money because I think that most people would assume that offering a pardon indicates "I think you're guilty and will lose in court and so I'm going to pardon you in order to save you." and that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt such as "I need this pardon because otherwise I'm going to jail." I'm not sure if that's technically true but I think it would be a common perception.
     
  3. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    From what I understand, accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. I could be wrong.

    Also, I looks like Mueller could get access to Trump's tax returns. I guess Trump is shitting bricks right now.
     
  4. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  6. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    Then even the FALN boy was unremarkable and irrelevant and you won't remark on any Trump pardons.

    I linked to the clemency pardons so now the commutations: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-commutations

    Out the door? Either link will show otherwise.
     
  7. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    How many of these are Obama's top campaign aides and/or relatives? Exactly.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    For that I think you have to go back to Scooter Libby.
     
  9. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    OK, so here's a big list

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_or_granted_clemency_by_the_President_of_the_United_States

    so what?

    Maybe you can explain how these lists that you've posted are relevant or significant.
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    This thread reminds me of the old Watergate-era thing, only with new names:

    "Who pardoned Richard Nixon?"
    "Gerald Ford."
    "OK, who pardoned Ford for pardoning Nixon?"

    "Sh** don't change,
    Sh** stay the same." - Snoop Dogg


    J.
     
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  11. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    How many should be?
     
  12. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    It's the kind of thinly veiled insulting answer that someone gives when they don't have a real answer. We get it.
     
  14. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    So, being relevant and significant, how many people has Trump pardoned?
     
  15. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Yes. What makes this unique to Trump is he is asking about pardons for himself and his family, aides, etc.
     
  16. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  17. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

  18. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    An unknown, unmaned source "told" one news paper and it has been cited by every news media out there. There is zero proof of this non-sense. ZERO! Muller is a hack first off, secondly he will find nothing. I am sick of the weekly "we got him! Is DRUMSPJFDFS going to be fired and face impeachment?"
     
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  19. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Then why hasn't Trump tweeted against it! Seems weird. He sure is gunning after Mueller. If he has nothing to hide, why doesn't he just let the investigation proceed? Oh, probably because Mueller can go after Trumpeta's tax records. Trump sure is acting guilty, even though he may not be.
     
  20. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Unless he has already. This would only confirm that it is true.
     

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