A whole new level of WTF?

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I guess I figured that somewhere there were nude photos of Melania Trump but I didn't think the New York Post would actually find them and publish them. I'm not crazy about the Trumps but that seems pretty low to me.

    [sorry, get your own link]
     
  2. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    Why is that surprising? When you run for office, your WHOLE life is up for grabs. Nude photos out there? Of course someone is going to find them and put them out there, that's just the new age of journalism. Perhaps crazy Trump should have thought of this when he decided to run, but then again, maybe he doesn't care.
     
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Melania - OK. I don't mind. As long as no nudes of Donald show up. Or the Clintons. That would be the final catastrophe - really, really awful! :shock: Regardless of any political campaign!
    Oh, man! This year, I'm particularly glad I don't get to vote for anyone in an American presidential election! What a choice! :sad: How was this allowed to happen?

    J.
     
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  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    What, no sex tape? Boooooring....
     
  5. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Like I said, I'm not surprised that such photos exist. It's probably true for most models who work at that level of the business. But they were taken probably before she was even married to Trump. It's possible that they could just come up in a google search so it's not like they were being hidden. I just think it says bad things about that newspaper that they felt they needed to print them. Maybe that's an old fashioned attitude in today's world. It's quite possible that she doesn't even care.
     
  6. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    Makes no difference, won't matter. Got any pics of her in a hajib? That would be news.
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That would be my guess, or even that she's amused at how provincial Americans are for even talking about it.
     
  8. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Is it fair to say you're not very familiar with New York Post? They're hardly what I'd call a newspaper. They're more like a sensationalist tabloid written at a second grade reading level. This is exactly what they do.

    https://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/new-york-post-spitzer-rough-sox1.jpg

    http://f.tqn.com/y/politicalhumor/1/S/t/z/5/weiner-hard-numbrers.jpg

    http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2012/11/ny-post-front-page-osama-bin-wankin.jpg

    http://images2.villagevoice.com/imager/u/original/6685770/obama_weinernypost_560.jpg

    https://sexyderg.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/ny_nyp05201.jpg

    http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2014/10/01/nypost-bag-men.jpg (by the time this was printed, the men in the photos had already been cleared as suspects)
     
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  9. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  10. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I agree. I feel like they're going as low as they can find at this point and not just the NY Post.
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  12. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  13. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I'll wait to comment on Melania trump's immigration history until someone actually comes up with proof of something. They allege she "lied" about her visa because a reporter asked if she had a specific type of visa and she nodded but her having to re-enter the country sounds like it might have been another type of visa. They latched onto it being a B-1 which would not have allowed her to work. But with over 185 visa types that sounds like it might well have been a reach.

    It's also possible that her early modeling was actually contracted outside of the U.S. even if she physically did the modeling here.

    It's also not likely to make a dent even if she acted outside the authority of her visa. People angry about "illegal immigration" aren't angry about mild visa abuses. They are angry about people who they perceive to be stealing US jobs and collecting welfare (neither is true). Those who aren't angry about illegal immigration don't care either way.

    The Khan family thing is far more damaging. But even then it is only affecting centrist Republicans. The extremists just find new ways to try to demonize Mr. and Captain Khan.
     
  14. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    The fact that there are 185 types of visa is irrelevant. Very few of these are available to any one person at any time. I also do not see how working on a B1/B2 is a "minor" violation. It is breaking the one cardinal rule of a visitor visa, after all. Technically, it is a big deal.

    Of course, in practice, this was very common in her industry at the time. A lot of Eastern European models did it, so most likely so did Melania Knauss: there is no indication she was exceptional in any way before meeting Trump. It is not reasonable to seriously blame her for that, even more so for the nude photos: this was just her job.

    Of course, Mrs. Trump does not run for office. Mr. Trump does. So the interesting aspect is this: his campaign deployed her as a surrogate twice in the span of a month, and at both occasions, set her up for an easily avoidable embarrassment. Donald Trump's campaign, and by extension Trump, apparently does not care enough even about Mrs. Trump to do a half-decent job to not let that happen. Again. How much less regard will he have for the needs of his voters, and the American public? Think about it.
     
  15. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    "Donald Trump's campaign, and by extension Trump, apparently does not care enough even about Mrs. Trump to do a half-decent job to not let that happen. Again. How much less regard will he have for the needs of his voters, and the American public? Think about it"

    Yeah, i did think about that. Geez! He set her up to look pretty bad, and apparently, he doesn't care. He doesn't care about anyone but himself.
     
  16. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    How curious:
    Melania got marriage green card 4 years before wedding Trump - NY Daily News
    " An immigration attorney who worked for the Trump Organization told Univision he obtained a green card “based on marriage” for Melania in 2001.

    Just one potential problem — that was four years before her wedding to Donald Trump."

    Lovely. This is perhaps the most common type of green card for a person like Ms. Knauss. Of course, the fact that she reportedly already dated Mr. Trump means that this was not a bona fide marriage, meaning visa fraud (see the movie "Proposal"). This would explain why she only married Trump in 2005; they'd have to wait for the IRS to remove a "condition" on her green card (her husband would have to make an application testifying that this is a real marriage; again, fraud). Given how high profile Trump is, I'm astounded the feds missed this one; they are often pretty tough on spousal sponsorship.

    Again, this arrangement is faaar from unprecedented. But for the campaign to show off Melania anywhere near the discussion of immigration and visas is shocking malpractice. Why would he do it to her? Does he try to get her deported?

    You can tell a lot about a guy based on how he treats those closest to him. It's like the Donald's hero, Vlad, hiding his children and alleged secret mistress from the world, and dragging his wife to national TV to sit next to him when he confirms their divorce. She was even made to say "I agree with Vladimir Vladimirovich" in the most awkward way. You don't need to know anything else about Mr. Putin to know that he's a psychopath.
     

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