Maybe I am preaching to the choir here but is Trump calling vets losers or what?

I know there is not a lot of love for Trump here but really, Did Trump really say that he sacrificed more than a family who lost their son in (Vietnam), or was it Afghanistan? Anyways, Does Trumps childhood days spent at the military academy really match up? Was he ever spanked as a child? I am thinking not.

Oh yeah he called a general a loser. Lets do the Trump math here.

A general is basically a politician

General = Politician = Loser

Trump wants to be a politician so by Trumps calculation

Trump = Politician = Loser

I am not saying that Trump wants to be a loser(politician). I am guessing he is after the money. He has made 500 million running for president. Lets say becomes a single termer he has 20 good years left in him. So conservatively 20 X 500,000 = 10 Billion $

So, by my math, he can basically tell all of them to stick it because hes going to be worth 15b. And that seems to be the plan

 

Seriously man, are you drunk?

It's like you're playing the drinking game "Disassociation", where the object is to find a connection, no matter how specious or absurd, between 2 words or phrases. For example, one time I was playing, and said "Lee Iacocca" and the next guy "picket fence". He had to drink, because I was once the passenger in a car crash where my friend's car went through a picket fence, and it was a Dodge K-Car. Dodge is part of Chrysler, of which Iacocca was once the chairman, so there was a connection.

That is exactly how absurd your "connection" is.

I'm a DAV & combat veteran, and Donald Trump has done more for veterans than Hillary Clinton ever has or ever will. I have a lot of Marine friends, and they are beyond furious about General Allen coming out for Hillary, to the point that they now refer to him as "Benedict Allen". He sold his reputation for the potential of a few pieces of silver, I hope he thinks it's worth it to lose the respect of the Marines he commanded.

Most veterans despise Hillary Clinton, as well as her husband Bill "I loathe the military" Clinton, which means.....hold on.....you saw it here first.....the Democrats will try everything possible to disqualify armed forces absentee ballots from being counted for the general election.

After all, they have some experience with that putrid practice;

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2000/dec/12/20001212-013501-2874r/

 

LOL well said. I have some in-laws who are dyed in the wood Democrats and they detest Trump and criticize him at every opportunity -- and I get an earful from them all the time. I'm going to go ahead and say it: Trump will be the next President of the United States. It is going to be very good for the nation. It is what it is.

 

Hi,

Yeah, DAV, what a racket that is. I'd be DAV except for the fact they think I am gay. Also including the fact that I never fell out or went to sick call (not that they would let me actually go on sick call). Ok, My point. I don't really have a point. I am just saying that Trump is in it for the money. Is that better than Hillary or worse than Hillary as president? I have no clue. Let me fact check my off the cuff comments.

A friend of mine who was a retired full bird marine Col told me that that was about as far as you can go in the military because after that rank, being General is a political appointment. Nobody earned the rank of general. Some politician gave it to him.

If you read into Donald's message about the kids son dying in battle, you will get the idea that he doesn't care much for veterans. That's a fine message to his constituency since most people don't really care about veterans either. There are even a large amount of veterans that don't care about certain classes of veterans. How do I know this? Have you seen all those ads trying to get people to hire veterans. I wonder why have to have ads just to get veterans hired? Trump might be fine though, I suppose you can put lipstick on the pig and that would be fine too.

And now we have First Lady Melania pinups. I'm not a Trump supporter but I might consider buying one.

I never played disassociation and now I will proofread this masterpiece.

Brant

 

Buy the one of her in a thong. :smile: Ay dios mio, no I didn't. Oh si! I did. He he

 

It's all good. No worries.

 

20 X 500,000 = 10 Million $

 

Heh, Trump made 500 million since he started running for office. I am guessing that he is going to make 500m from the Royalties from "Trump, the election edition" board game over the next 20 years alone.

 

Oh yeah, the 20+ years I've had with chronic health issues, and will have for the rest of my shortened life because of my deployment, in return for a pittance each month. That's a real racket.

 

Well, I think its a racket. Like I said, I too have health issues that are shortening my life too. Back when them thinking you were gay was important they just flat out said no so I went on SSI. Later when being called gay in the military wasn't so important, someone suggested that I go over to the American Legion to apply. Turns out that going on sick call is very important to getting it. Without it nada. They wouldn't even help me fill out the application. The thing is every retired vet and their kid is on it, full disability is 2 grand a month, even 30% disability is not chicken feed. You get it every single month regardless of whether or not you work, unlike us working stiffs who only get paid while we work. So whatever. Beg to disagree. I can't even get the veterans medical benefits that I am entitled to due to some paperwork issues. They do feel free to scream at me when I call though. Calling them was almost like being back in the army so I quit trying. Not worth the bother.

I worked myself off of disability by working too much so I am a working stiff now.

 

I'm usually the first to make a joke at the expense of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children but you cannot possibly believe that the handful of Marines you've discussed this with are representative of all Marines, can you?

I mean, they're your friends, one would expect them to be of reasonable like mind on a number of issues. There are Marines who are Republicans. There are Marines who are Democrats. Heck, Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine and a die-hard communist (ok, maybe a bad example...).

Now tell me, how much respect for General Allen would you have if he made his decision based upon what would be popular among the marines he formerly commanded? Is that really the benchmark of a quality leader?

While I am not a Hillary fan I don't particularly have any strong feelings one way or the other regarding Bill. However, once again, you do not speak for "most" veterans. You speak for "some veterans." Believe whatever you like. But please don't go trying to affix a veteran imprimatur to whatever you say. You don't get to decide what "most" veterans approve or disapprove of.

It's a bit like how you weren't allowed to wear your military uniform to a political rally. Believe whatever you like but don't try to make it look like you speak for the entire service.

Somehow I feel that even if they don't you will just move on to your next conspiracy theory.

Absentee ballots are not controlled by the current administration. They are administered by the individual service member's respective county/state. So if I get deployed tomorrow and request an absentee ballot it will come from the Onondaga County Board of Elections. My county board of elections doesn't only issue absentee ballots for service members, however, they also send them to Americans living abroad, registered voters living in nursing homes or temporarily out of state (but unable to return for elections).

The "putrid practice" you refer to was opposition to putting polling stations on bases. Aside from the obvious risk of politicizing political bases I'm not sure how they intended to have these votes counted. "The military" is not a state and has no roll in the electoral college. The individual service members are registered voters from their hometowns and, in some cases, the local community where they reside. There are also teams of volunteers on overseas military bases whose job leading up to elections is to register service members to vote and guide them through the process of requesting and completing absentee ballots.

So yes, if by "putrid practice" you mean an unnecessary process which would ultimately prove to be prejudicial to good order and discipline while offering service members no actual advantage to receiving a ballot in the mail and sending it back then yes, this is as putrid as practices go.

 

What in the hell are you talking about? Are you saying that being gay is worthy of a DAV pension?

 

Hi,

Stand down soldier. Unlike you, I am surely not worthy of getting a DAV pension and instead have to work paycheck to paycheck like fat slob that I am. I am grateful for that paycheck too. To get that paycheck I need to do things like guard my bosses food at the cafeteria while he is on the loo. I am so grateful that I do not have to crawl around and pick up my paycheck with my teeth like so many. Did I mention that my boss is a Trump supporter too? Don't mind me, you just caught me in the act of drooling a bit. I am not hungry but,That's what seeing life on the other side does to me. Just Carry on. I suppose you are getting some kind of pension too right?

I don't think I actually called myself gay at the time but that's a minor bit of scuttlebutt. Doesn't matter anymore anyway does it? I am not a post 911 vet, and according to my (revised) DD214 I didn't do much of anything while I was in the service and cannot reenlist even if I wanted to.

Thanks,

Brant

 

Trumps tee shirts on his site are less than Hillaries.

My post of 500,000 dollars a year was a typo but there is some actual discussion going on right now if his income really is less that 500,000 a year. Apparently he took some tax credit on his park avenue apt worth 306 dollars that is only available to him if he is making less that 500,000 a year. The 500 million dollar figure attributed to be the money he has earned since he started running is total revenue not net income. To be fair to Trump, a campaign shirt from his site will run you about 20 bucks. A campaign shirt from Hillbillies site will run you 30 bucks. In my mind anything over 25 bucks for a campaign shirt is a screw. So, other than the price of tee shirts, is Hillary screwing us? I guess we will probably know after the election. Tee Hee.