Trump goes from saying wages are too high

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    and now says they are too low.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/within-24-hours-being-presumptive-134700922.html


    "In the past, Donald Trump has said that the American wages are too high and repeatedly expressed the concern that raising the minimum wage would undermine American competitiveness in the global economy. But less than a day after securing the status of presumptive Republican presidential nominee, he said he'd consider making it higher."

    Talk about a flip flopper. Oh God, that reminds me of that stupid little flip flop flip flop chant from back in the day. :smile:
     
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  2. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    Abner did you read the transcript of his interview...he is open to the idea. As we all should be on any issue! He never said he would. Every media outlet is running this story and its total crap.
     
  3. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Ah, he is just telling Bernie supporters what they want to hear. As a businessman, i am sure he would never consider raising the minimum wage even more.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Wait, do you seriously think he's not pivoting to the center for the general election? That so many people thought that Trump was meaningfully different from other politicians in any way other would be funny if it weren't so sad. I mean, you all think that a guy who paid Bill and Hillary Clinton to be at his wedding isn't part of the establishment? That's hilarious!
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    He is absolutely "meaningfully different." Politicians understand what it means to say one thing and do another, and do it in a way that is (usually) not noticed. Trump is taking multiple stances on issues, sometimes during the same conversation, with no regard as to how it sounds to voters. This is a feature to his followers--he says what he thinks!--but a bug to everyone else who thinks he's ungrounded and says whatever pops into his head.

    He's a terrible politician--and his followers love that about him. They don't want a politician for the most political job in the world.
     
  6. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I'm still not convinced that this whole thing isn't a giant pro-Hillary troll that just went better than he expected.

    If he picks Ted Nugent as his running mate we'll know we can expect an amazing show this fall.
     
  7. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    I would've preferred a Chuck Norris / Ted Nugent ticket. Oh well.
     
  8. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member


    10,000,000 Points to you sir. Most people have not figured this out somehow. I'm voting for him because of what he is not, not what he is.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    If it was Chuck Norris, he'd have this thing won already. He'd run for Vice President and get elected President because, you know...
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Oh, lots of people have this figured out, most of whom see it as a bug, not a feature.

    No one has ever been elected President without previously holding public office (including the military). There's a reason for that.
     
  11. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    At least I'm not the only one here who thinks he's a troll and possibly a plant. Donald Trump is like most other politicians, but 10X worse. If people thought Mitt Romney and John Kerry flip flopped a lot, Donald Trump will do it within the same interview.
     
  12. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    No Catholic had ever been elected President until 1960, no divorcee had ever been elected President until 1980, and no African-American had ever been elected President until 2008.

    Times, they are a'changing.
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Great examples. Oh, wait, no they're not.

    You're talking about barriers, not qualifications.

    Politics is the only profession where a large swath of the public--you know who you are--thinks a lack of qualifications is somehow a qualification. But it isn't. Trump says things all the time--about foreign affairs, domestic affairs, finance--that are clueless when it comes to public service. For example, his comments the other day about debt would, if enacted, be ruinous for the world economy and would destroy the U.S. dollar. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us/politics/donald-trumps-idea-to-cut-national-debt-get-creditors-to-accept-less.html?_r=0

    Being clueless and inexperienced in the very thing you're asking to do is about qualifications. It isn't a barrier, like say like no woman ever being elected President. Until 2016, of course. It was a pretty good bet anyway, but "Taco Bowl" Trump seals it.
     
  14. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I worked at a voting center when Arnold Schwarzenegger was on the ballot for Governor of California. There were long lines in the evening, mostly young people*, and I heard lots of them saying (in effect) they were voting for Arnold because he was a celebrity.

    I expect to some extent that will be true for Trump.

    * Many were first time voters and I had to explain how to use the voting machines.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The cornerstone of democracy is the fallacy that all voters are equally well informed.
     
  16. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    One of my earlier fantasies has been that someday a certain former Mayor of Cincinnati would run for prez.
     
  17. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    And, until 2016, no woman has been prez as yet.
     
  18. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    One of my old political science professors used to tell his students that there is an ancient Chinese curse that goes like this: "May you live in interesting times."
     
  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    If you mean Jerry Springer, if I remember right he toyed with the idea of running for the U.S. Senate ten years ago or so, but decided against it.
     
  20. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    Something new:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/09/sorry-suckers-trump-didnt-actually-shift-on-taxing-rich-and-minimum-wage/
     

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