Will Trump pay this supporters legal fees?

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  2. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I didn't know there were so many assaults against black people at his rallies until I read that article and clicked on the links to past articles.
     
  3. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Trump is racist!!

    Oh, wait.....

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  4. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I don't know if Trump is racist or just pandering to racists, but the endorsement of a black man says nothing. Ben Carson's opinion is not worth more than the opinion of other black people outside of his specialty of medicine. There was a black man who was on TV several years ago for befriending KKK members. Does that mean that the KKK members are no longer racist? Strom Thurmond had a child with a black woman. Does that mean he was not racist?
     
  5. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    I doubt race even had anything to do with it, 78 year old would have punched another white guys as well for they way they acting. I want to punch these black idiots as well and I'm black. I was having this conversation the other day at a local social club and I have to say blacks as a whole are very entitled. As a mixed race person I am often shocked at the attitudes of privilege that exist in the black community. The were handing out F**k Trump Stickers and in the same breath calling him angry? All these guys have these stickers on their cars now.

    If a group or whites had done this at an event populated by blacks I'm sure they would have punched the whites interrupting their events. I'm sick of the BLMs and others thinking its ok to shut down others right to assemble. People are provoking others to do crap and then whining when it happens.
     
  6. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I already know how you feel about black people. You would fit in well at Stormfront if it weren't for the fact that you're part black. There were many hateful signs against Obama at Tea Party rallies and government employees sending racist emails to their coworkers. I've also seen hateful bumper stickers against Obama; I've been seeing them for years. I doubt you would call these people white idiots.

    I don't agree with the violence that happened in Chicago that led to the Trump rally being cancelled because he has a right to speak no matter how vapid and offensive his words are, but at most of the other Trump events, people were protesting peacefully. You might think that protesters deserve to be punched, but I believe they have a right to protest. One of the incidents referenced in the article involved a white nationalist who assaulted a black person unprovoked. But, I'm sure that you'll find a way to make an excuse for him because you're always making excuses for racist white people. They could start lynching people at Trump rallies, and you would say that the black idiots deserved it because they provoked the crowd by protesting, which is their constitutional right.

    All of the remaining Republican candidates are saying that Trump is being divisive, intolerant, and promoting violence. Sane adults don't go around punching people just because they are protesting with different political views. We aren't cavemen.
     
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  7. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I'd also like to point out that there were many Latinos and white people protesting Donald Trump and calling him racist, so there aren't just "black idiots" strongly opposed to him. I was also wrong about the one white nationalist. There were two white nationalists who shoved a black woman at a Trump rally. There were also other incidents where Trump supporters shouted racial slurs at protesters. But, I guess that has nothing to do with race either.
     
  8. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    I agree. I think the fact of the matter is that Trump has incited and encouraged violence among his protestors from the beginning. Not only that, but by not denouncing it, he is condoning it. The person with the mic has a certain responsibility to maintain order and an amount of civility. Instead, he has made comments like "knock the crap out of tomato throwers, I'll cover the legal fees". This is only one of MANY such comments that he has made, and it has resulted in violence against protestors perpetrated by his supporters. In effect, he has created a mob/vigilante mentality among his followers.

    Trump supporters are not only fond of assaulting blacks, but Latinos and Muslims as well. Blows/spitting have been thrown as racial epithets are being yelled out to protesters by these fanatics. I can list dozens of links to such cases, but I will leave it to the reader to do his own google search if he wishes. His own campaign Manager assaulted a female Breibert reporter who dared ask him a question about affirmative action. See what Ted Cruz has to say about Trump on these issues below:

    "Earlier today over thirty people were arrested at one rally. And then tonight as violence broke out the rally was canceled altogether. Now, the responsibility for that lies with protesters (he did not correctly add "and supporters") who took violence into their own hands. But in any campaign responsibility starts at the top. Any candidate is responsible for the culture of the campaign. And when you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have a campaign that’s facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discord."

    All I can say is that Trump does not have the temperament to be President. He is a loaded gun that frequently seems to go off. Good luck if he should become President.
     
  9. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member


    Um the video I watched where the gent was punched was all black guys sooo...Its no ones right to enter a event and shut it down. Yep I cant call out my own races problems pfft. You cant hear any argument but your own. I am opposed to any vulgar bumper sticker, it does not make it right if they did it to Obama. As a matter of fact I believe Obama has been mistreated and was never given a chance. Just because I think BLM matter idiots are idiots I don't need to go to storm front.

    I cant wrap my head around the fact people think its ok to show up at rally's and shut them down, blocking walk ways yelling loudly. This is crazy. Then to blame the guy holding the rally for it happening? WHAT? Its all Trumps fault that these sweet protestors are not being treated fairly while shutting down these event.
     
  10. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member


    Abner I can list dozens of crap against Trump supporters, not that it makes it right. I went to the event in Houston and I can tell you walking in we were screamed at by Latinos and called every name under the sun. Stuff that made us sick to our stomachs, very sad that my son was their. But that's cool right cause its your side? Funny how one side is shown in a certain light? At the Trump rally in Dallas their were tons of Latinos and blacks. None were shown by the media, just on out row was a very diverse mix of people yet the local and national news never focused in on us. There were protest outside and a group of pro Trump Hispanics meet them face to face chanting Trump..no media story.
     
  11. jhp

    jhp Member

    I do not like Mr. Trump. Something about him just sets me on edge.

    Yet, Mr. Trump does exactly what most do on either side of the isle.

    It also seems that this incident is "news" because Reductio ad Hitlerum did not work.

    I am willing to bet a bean burrito at Taco Bell, if the racist card fails, the next will be around some gender or sexual orientation issue.
     
  12. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    It's not difficult to figure out; Trump is saying what a LOT of other people have been thinking for years, but have been too afraid or intimidated by the liberal bullies to say it themselves. They're pissed off, have had enough, and aren't going to remain silent any longer; the fact that the establishment is doing everything possible to stop Trump just fuels their anger and determination.
     
  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    The events where non-violent people were assaulted were not shut down. It was the rally in Chicago that was shut down. Trump is getting supporters by playing off of people's fears of the changing demographics of America. With the people opposing him, he is instilling fear in them. They're afraid of what types of xenophobic and religiously intolerant policies he will push if he's elected. Trump's campaign is surrounded by fear. I don't understand how anyone can seriously say that Trump is going to unite America. He has to be the most divisive candidate in modern times.

    The U.S. has long made it taboo to be a white supremacist on the liberal and conservative sides, and it should stay that way. When you have a lot of conservatives coming out saying that Trump's words are offensive and do not reflect the values of America, then you know something is wrong. By the way, Trump is not even close to being a conservative. He is in his own realm of idiocy. Ted Cruz is a conservative.
     
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  14. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    What about Obama?

    In no way shape or form is Trump a white supremacist.

    What words has trump said that are so offensive? He called a lady a pig? I've seen Democrats say worse and not be called out on it. Does that make it ok? No. The people on the conservative said talking smack are the establishment or Cruz supporters. What you fail to grasp is their is a war in the party right now. The old ways are dead, no longer is the base going to be ok with the middle of the road guys.


    I want to end this by pointing out Obama has been the most radical prez to date. Trump is only the other said of the coin like it or not.
     
  15. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    Here a quick list of racist things democrats have said.....


     
  16. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    We will agree to disagee. I think Trump is doing the Dems a favor by his current actions. He is energizing the Dems, who outnumber the Republicans. Even though Dems outnumber Republicans, man of them tend to be lazy when it comes time to voting. That will not be the case in this election. President Obamas approval ratings are at excellent right now, and this will serve to benefit Clinton.

    See link:

    Obama approval rating could be GOP problem - Business Insider
     
  17. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    It's always puzzling and disappointing when someone who's obviously intelligent takes the cheap & lazy route by throwing out completely unsubstantiated allegations. What proof do you have that Trump has anything whatsoever to do with any white supremacy movement? You don't, you just figured it would be a quick, cheap, and easy way out of cogently expressing your argument. I expected much more from you.

    The "conservatives" who are coming out against Trump are terrified that he can't be bought, and therefore can't be controlled. They're also terrified of how he's brought so many people into the GOP who are sick and tired of career politicians, who talk a lot, but actually do nothing.

    When did I ever say that Trump is a conservative?

    Cruz is just another talking head politician who talks a good game, but when it comes time to act, it will be politics as usual. Back slapping, good old boy games that do absolutely nothing for the average American taxpayer. There are A LOT of Americans who have had enough of politicians, and Donald Trump is a breath of fresh air.
     
  18. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    That is the point. Donald Trump supporters are on TV and the Internet saying that Trump will unit us unlike Obama, but there are only signs that he will do worse. I, honestly, don't believe that Obama has really done anything directly to divide the country. He has received a lot of hate just for being a black Democrat. If he were white, people wouldn't be questioning his religion and birthplace and sending racist emails to each other about him.



    In no way shape or form is Trump a white supremacist.[/quote]

    I did not call him a white supremacist. Read the post I was responding to for context.



    He proposed a moratorium on Muslims coming to this country, which is not only illegal, but against the value of religious liberty we have in this country. He also said that Mexico was sending rapists and murderers to the U.S. playing off of people's fears of immigrants. The truth is that undocumented immigrants proportionally commit less crimes than citizens and legal residents because they are afraid of being deported. He insulted Carly Fiorina's looks even though he has to be the least attractive person running and compared Ben Carson to a pedophile. Then, he wanted to pretend that his blood insult against Megyn Kelly was not a reference to menstruation just like he pretended he had earpiece problems when he said he knew nothing about David Duke.

    If you think Obama is the most radical president to date, then you haven't studied history. You can start by reading up on FDR, Abraham Lincoln, and Andrew Jackson.

    You are deflecting. This is not a Democrat vs Republican discussion. This is about Donald Trump who only started claiming to be a Republican a few years ago and still isn't a real Republican. He's a scam.
     
  19. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I did not say that Donald Trump is a white supremacist. My post was in reference to the people you said are happy that Trump is saying things people have been afraid to say. It is a fact that some of these people are white supremacists. You have white nationalists assaulting people at his rallies, and there is a super PAC for him created by various white supremacist groups. Also, Trump has retweeted white supremacists on multiple occasions. I don't even need to turn to liberal websites to find news on white supremacists supporting Trump.

    White Supremacists Form A Super PAC. Take A Wild Guess Who They're Supporting? | RedState

    They are afraid of the death of their party. With Trump as the nominee, it makes it more likely that they will lose the third presidential election in a row. The party is already having diversity issues when this country is becoming more diverse. In the last election, they lost, not only the black and Latino vote, but the Asian vote. Asians are the fastest growing immigrant population in the U.S. If the Republican Party cannot solve its issue with attracting minorities, it will either become mostly a local party or will have to be replaced by another center-right party. This country already has a history of center-right parties becoming defunct.



    Donald Trump may not be a career politician, but he has been a part of the back slapping and gold ol' boy system for decades. Only the ill-informed believe that he hasn't been a part of the system.
     
  20. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member



    What? You mean like they do with everyone? Cruz has been sued nonstop.




    You are deflecting.

    You are completely out of touch with reality.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

    I can post about fifty more interviews where he says he's a conservative.
     

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