Political Correctness

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  1. Kizmet

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  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    What article?

    The term 'PC' is widely mis-used, especially people wanting to excuse their use of racial slurs and other horrible statements.

    'PC' is about being polite, sometimes to the point of saying something that isn't true in order to spare someone's feelings.

    I'm not defending 'PC,' but most of what is passed off as 'PC' is really just ignorant and offensive.

    That said, I'm a little tired of the 'offended' society we're living in. Apologies are demanded left and right for statements others don't agree with. I can do without the apology--usually insincerely offered. I'd rather the original rudeness stand on its own--and its progenitor judged accordingly. And, relevant to this board, I'm really, really tired of college students complaining about hearing speech they don't agree with. Get over yourselves!
     
  3. Kizmet

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  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    PC = suppression of speech that liberals don't agree with.

    As much as I find the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church to be repulsive, they're within their rights. Thankfully, the Patriot Guard Riders also exercise their rights to drown them out.

    All hope is not lost in academia, though;

    This is Not a Day Care. It's a University! - Oklahoma Wesleyan University
     
  5. jhp

    jhp Member

    [P]olitical [C]orrectness is unfortunately not the sole domain of liberals.

    PC is not :about being polite", or lying to "spare someone's feelings". It is mostly when someone is "just ignorant and offensive" and demands undue relief, or when someone lies to protect themselves from the demanding group.
     
  6. Bruce

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  7. Kizmet

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  9. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I have mixed feelings on this request. Among the students' proposed solution is that the hall be renamed with the former president's full name. So, instead of "Lynch Hall: it would be "Clyde A. Lynch Hall."

    That's a fairly modest name change request as far as requesting buildings be renamed goes.

    However, we all know that the building is named after Clyde A. Lynch. We all know that Clyde A. Lynch was, by all historical accounts, a pretty good guy. And we're all pretty sure that the building name is designed to commemorate Clyde A. Lynch without giving a nod to any murderous acts.

    Functionally, this won't change anything. People will still say they are going to "Lynch Hall." If classes are held there, I imagine that course schedules will note "Lynch" as the class location. That's the reason why I think this request really needs to be dropped.

    The first African-American female Attorney General's last name is Lynch. Why didn't she change it? Why doesn't anyone insist that the top law enforcement officer in the country change it? After all, it might evoke memories of when the police were complicit in these crimes against the African American community.

    I'm glad that they aren't trying to erase Lynch from the building just because of his surname. But this protest does seem a bit silly.
     
  10. Kizmet

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  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Whenever I hear the term "PC" used, I smell a rat. But I really think the assault on free speech in higher education has gone way overboard. If we strive to keep everything at the lowest common denominator, nothing will be learned or researched. But everyone will be "comfortable." How nice.
     
  12. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    There are an awful lot of future college graduates who are going to be shocked and dismayed when they get to their first real jobs after graduation, then realize that no one cares what they think is insensitive or offensive.
     
  13. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Many, indeed, are shocked. A few years ago this recent graduate found his way to my office weekly to complain about various things. Some of them were legitimate, albeit minor, concerns that he either should have tried to resolve himself or simply ignored. As time went on his issues became more and more tiring. He was upset that the cafeteria didn't sell fair trade coffee, he wanted us (as a company) to sign some recycling pledge (no pledge needed, we recycle a lot of things), he was upset that we didn't pay for employee gym memberships etc. I always felt many of his issued sounded like the sort of thing that college students complain about while in college.

    He pissed his supervisor off something fierce by complaint about hI'm to me so much. The final straw came when he decided to lead a "walk-out" over the myriad of oppressions we were crushing him with. He was the only one to actually leave the building (despite his yelling). His manager fired him for causing a disruption (the kid was salaried, so walking outside for 20 minutes wasn't really an offense). Some time later we got a letter in the mail from his college buddy who was, at that time, a first year law student somewhere threatening us with complete and utter financial ruin. Our legal people shut that down quickly (and wrote a letter to his law school dean asking if they were aware one of their first year students was writing lawyer letters on behalf of friends).

    Suffice to say, someone failed that young man by not preparing him for the real world. Though I don't think that absolves him of his own culpability in failing to grow up, either.
     
  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    True dat. :smile:
     
  15. Kizmet

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  16. jhp

    jhp Member

    The people have spoken. You are a hater.
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  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Either way nowadays most people don't get the day off....
     
  18. Kizmet

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  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    "I've studied authoritarianism for a very long time - for 40 years - and they're started by people's attempts to control the ideological and linguistic territory. There's no way I'm going to use words made up by people who are doing that - not a chance."

    Generally I'm happy to refer to people how they would prefer, but he's right about this. The cultural far left is assiduously attempting to redefine words to mean different things that suit their worldview. "Violence", "aggression", "safe", and many more words mean something very different to them than one finds in the dictionary.
     
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