American reactions to N. Korean nuclear threat

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Kizmet, Mar 8, 2013.

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    We're already starving them practically to death. The world is about to strangle them just a bit more. Sabre-rattling has worked in the past. They do things like this every year to protest the FOAL Eagle exercise (I was there in 1993). No big deal for this, but resolving the Korean situation itself remains a big deal.
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I'm guessing that there's one or two people working on that. In the meantime I just thought I'd make a bit of a joke.
     
  4. ryoder

    ryoder New Member

    I don't think that WE are starving them to death. I think their communist government is. That's the way it is with communism.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    There are other ways to look at this. The U.S. has no trouble working with communist governments and never has. Just look at our relations with Vietnam and China. On the other hand, we treat the ones we don't like (Cuba and North Korea) as pariahs.

    We occupy the Korean Peninsula militarily. We're still in a technical state of war with North Korea. We are the main driver behind U.N. sanctions against them. Do they deserve it? It's a chicken-and-egg argument that goes back before WWII.

    Countries can display and exercise many forms of power. Economic, cultural, geographic, military, and others. Not all countries have the U.S.'s ability to use most or all of these. Korea was occupied brutally by Japan for the first half of the 20th century, then saw the nation nearly destroyed by the Korean War. After WWII, we agreed with the Russians to divide the country at the 38th parallel. The Russians set up a real communist and a real freedom fighter to head the North. We supported the South. This was a recipe for war--a war that has never ended. (The other two bifurcated nations ended up embroiled in war, too, Vietnam in a hot war and East/West Germany in the Cold War.)

    I'm not sympathetic to North Korea, but the reasons behind the current scenario are more complicated than it just being self-inflicted.

    As for communism leading to starvation, that isn't exactly true. Stalinism led to some in the Soviet Union, China, and elsewhere, certainly. But many other communist countries survived a great deal of economic and military pressure from the West (e.g. Cuba) while others even thrived economically (again, Vietnam and China).

    The North Korean government is culpable, but they also have good reason to fear the U.S.
     
  6. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    North Korea tells its people how Americans live today

    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84saI5yL158[/video]
     

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