Judge strikes down Wis. law limiting union rights

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Abner, Sep 15, 2012.

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  2. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    It's not, the WI State Supreme Court has already ruled the law is constitutional - and they'll do it again...
     
  3. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    I think the legislature and courts will think this is the wrong interpretation. The legal process isn’t over. Try again Abner!

    Quoting from the article there is more than enough doubt to keep things going for quite a while. “But what the ruling meant for existing public contracts was murky: Unions claimed the ruling meant they could negotiate again, but Walker could seek to keep the law in effect while the legal drama plays out.”
     
  4. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Try what again? I am fully aware this is not over, and can be appealled.

    Abner
     
  5. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    Yeah Abner we missed your posts on the Wisconsin thing when it happened a few months back, recall the governor and all that.
     
  6. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Excuse my defensive retort to your "Try again Abner!". I have been spending too much time in Sacramento. In my business, one must never underestimate the other side of a bargaining team. Thus, when I throw myself in to this sometimes viscious and brutal process, I must apply the "brass knuckles" approach/mentality if you will. This sometimes (many times) spills over in to my private life. I have a hardtime "turning off the switch" and I become very suspicious, over cautious, non-trusting and even cynical at times. This is my personal flaw and I am slowly learning to "disengage" if you will.

    Now, here is slightly more intelligent response to your above statement. Yes, this will be tied up in court for a long, long time. Both sides have endless amounts of money, and there will be a VERY expensive conclusion. So what do you do in these situations? Chip away at the marble slowly and carefully, so that interpretation of an action or law becomes almost irrelavant. In other words, you "pull the teeth out one by one" in order to weaken it.

    Thanks for your comments BobbyJim

    Have a good weekend BobbyJim! I plan to spend this afternoon with my beautiful wife at huge picnic this afternoon. Mexican food is being catered, and should be very delicious. I can't wait. Ah, sunny California. I need to spend more time enjoying simple this like a nice day.

    Abner :smile:
     
  7. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    You got me on that one Cory. The outcome did not go the way I expected. Never underestimate anything or anyone I guess. I do find it a little ironic that Scott Walker and his associates were in such a hurry to bring back the "union" refs. and replace the "scabs" after a botched call during that football game. You get what you pay for sometimes.

    Have a good one,

    Abner
     
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  8. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    401k time for new referee’s !!!!!!


    They are paying a fairly big price to get back to work, but with those salaries they can afford it. “In the new contract, refs' salaries will increase from an average of $149,000 a year in 2011 to $173,000 in 2013, rising to $205,000 by 2019. The current defined benefit pension plan will remain in place for current officials through the 2016 season or until the official earns 20 years' service. The defined benefit plan then will be frozen. Retirement benefits will be provided for new hires, and for all officials beginning in 2017, through a defined contribution.”
    NFL refs approve deal, scramble for Sunday return - ESPN
     
  9. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Given their salaries, I think this is more than fair and reasonable. I am still amazed they have 8 year contracts. Most unions bargain for a new contract every three years or so.


    Abner
     

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