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    Quote Originally Posted by 03310151 View Post
    True. Your reply begs the question though: Does the majority rule?
    The majority of people who vote or otherwise become integrally involved do, in fact, rule. This, as you know, is not the numerical majority of citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniac Craniac View Post
    I've read in passing (without doing the substantial amount of research usually demanded by this community) that the movie and record industries have a huge political lobby while social media barely have any. Cenk Uygur, the paranoid ultra-liberal whose videos I at times post here, suggested that SOPA and PIPA may have been a ploy from congress to force social media to create a political lobby, which would in turn become another funnel for bribery. It's just crazy enough to fit the MO of Washington in the year 2012.
    According to one of the 50 or so articles I've read in the past few days (or so it seems) I believe it was the Huffington Post or Forbes that reported that the tech industry as a whole has spent only 10% of what the entertainment industry has in lobby money (over what period of time I assume to be 2011 but I cannot recall). Suffice to say, you may have something there. This may amount to one giant shakedown. I wonder how much more the American people are willing to take from D.C. before things start turning ugly. I mean ugly as in making the occupy wall street look more like Sesame Street kind of ugly. Why are we as a people demanding an end to lobbyists period? Nobody should be able to go into Congress and 2 or 3 years later be millionaires. They should not be allowed to do insider trading, they should be forced to take the same healthcare and retirement they force on us (and supposedly manage for us) they should be required to follow speed limits, obey the laws, pay back their student loans and be prohibited from accepting any money not directly out of their salary like every other gosh danged public servant in America. Sorry...I'm just getting sick to death of it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by friendorfoe View Post
    According to one of the 50 or so articles I've read in the past few days (or so it seems) I believe it was the Huffington Post or Forbes that reported that the tech industry as a whole has spent only 10% of what the entertainment industry has in lobby money (over what period of time I assume to be 2011 but I cannot recall). Suffice to say, you may have something there. This may amount to one giant shakedown. I wonder how much more the American people are willing to take from D.C. before things start turning ugly. I mean ugly as in making the occupy wall street look more like Sesame Street kind of ugly. Why are we as a people demanding an end to lobbyists period? Nobody should be able to go into Congress and 2 or 3 years later be millionaires. They should not be allowed to do insider trading, they should be forced to take the same healthcare and retirement they force on us (and supposedly manage for us) they should be required to follow speed limits, obey the laws, pay back their student loans and be prohibited from accepting any money not directly out of their salary like every other gosh danged public servant in America. Sorry...I'm just getting sick to death of it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by friendorfoe View Post
    According to one of the 50 or so articles I've read in the past few days (or so it seems) I believe it was the Huffington Post or Forbes that reported that the tech industry as a whole has spent only 10% of what the entertainment industry has in lobby money (over what period of time I assume to be 2011 but I cannot recall). Suffice to say, you may have something there. This may amount to one giant shakedown. I wonder how much more the American people are willing to take from D.C. before things start turning ugly. I mean ugly as in making the occupy wall street look more like Sesame Street kind of ugly. Why are we as a people demanding an end to lobbyists period? Nobody should be able to go into Congress and 2 or 3 years later be millionaires. They should not be allowed to do insider trading, they should be forced to take the same healthcare and retirement they force on us (and supposedly manage for us) they should be required to follow speed limits, obey the laws, pay back their student loans and be prohibited from accepting any money not directly out of their salary like every other gosh danged public servant in America. Sorry...I'm just getting sick to death of it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 03310151 View Post
    Because, in America, half of the voting population has an IQ under 100.
    You may be close to right. Honestly I think it's because all the people who actually give a dang are on either the right or the left anf fairly evenly split. This leaves independents who largely either know the least and/or care the least making decisions for the rest of us. Beautiful system.
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