Thread: What the Right Gets Right

A very interesting read!

"What insights, principles, and analyses does this movement have to offer that liberals and Democrats might want to take into account?"
What the Right Gets Right - NYTimes.com

Quoted from the link:
Andy Stern, former president of the Service Employees International Union (one of our era’s few highly successful labor organizations) and now a senior fellow at Columbia University’s Richman Center, made five points about conservatives in an email to me:

“They appreciate more instinctively the need for fiscal balance.”

“They understand people’s more innate belief in hard work and individual responsibility and see government as too often lacking that understanding.”

“They are more suspicious from a philosophical point of view of big government as an answer to many issues and are suspicious of Wall Street institutionally and not just their high salaries, and bad practices.”

“They respect the need for private sector economic growth (although their prescription is lacking).”

“They are more pro-small business.”

Originally Posted by BobbyJim

"...and are suspicious of Wall Street institutionally and not just their high salaries, and bad practices.”

I am (conditionally) willing to buy the other points but I see no evidence of this one. If anything, I see the opposite.

Originally Posted by Kizmet

I am (conditionally) willing to buy the other points but I see no evidence of this one. If anything, I see the opposite.

That one seemed odd to me as well.

The right seems to worship Wall Street for the most part.

Originally Posted by Kizmet

I am (conditionally) willing to buy the other points but I see no evidence of this one. If anything, I see the opposite.

Obama’s raised more money for Democrats from Wall Street donors than all Republican candidates combined « Hot Air

Just asking....

Originally Posted by BobbyJim

Obama’s raised more money for Democrats from Wall Street donors than all Republican candidates combined « Hot Air

Just asking....

Those are two separate issues. You're just trying to muddy the water.

You folks would dispute “Andy Stern, former president of the Service Employees International Union (one of our era’s few highly successful labor organizations) and now a senior fellow at Columbia University’s Richman Center…” Really?

Did anyone actually read the article?

Originally Posted by BobbyJim

You folks would dispute “Andy Stern, former president of the Service Employees International Union (one of our era’s few highly successful labor organizations) and now a senior fellow at Columbia University’s Richman Center…” Really?

Did anyone actually read the article?

To quote the loquacious Joe Biden, "Yes," to both.

Originally Posted by BobbyJim

You folks would dispute “Andy Stern, former president of the Service Employees International Union (one of our era’s few highly successful labor organizations) and now a senior fellow at Columbia University’s Richman Center…” Really?

Did anyone actually read the article?

"Yes" to both.

Abner

Originally Posted by Kizmet

Those are two separate issues. You're just trying to muddy the water.

Me, stir the pot???? Well, maybe just a little bit. I do believe that conservatives do find it somewhat interesting that Wall Streeter’s contribute so heavily to democrats......if this is the bastion of capitalism and all such evils that liberal democrats denounce publically!

However, back to the article….I do think it interesting that some liberals are stating some opinions about conservatives that are not the standard sound-bites.

Originally Posted by BobbyJim

Me, stir the pot???? Well, maybe just a little bit. I do believe that conservatives do find it somewhat interesting that Wall Streeter’s contribute so heavily to democrats......if this is the bastion of capitalism and all such evils that liberal democrats denounce publically!

However, back to the article….I do think it interesting that some liberals are stating some opinions about conservatives that are not the standard sound-bites.

And vice versa. Look in to the lunch pail republicans.

Abner

Originally Posted by Abner

And vice versa. Look in to the lunch pail republicans.

Abner

Speaking of lunch-pail issues, here are some study results from 2004 that have some interesting conclusions.

(Caution: Past results are not an indication of future results. Your results may vary. Objects in rearview mirror are closer than they appear.)

“But here's Wall Street's strange little irony -- studies show the stock market performs better and tends to be less volatile when Democrats are in power.”

"It thus seems that the difference in realized returns can be attributed to the market being systematically positively surprised by Democratic policies…."

Stock markets historically do better under Dems than Reps. - Jan. 22, 2004

Originally Posted by BobbyJim

I do believe that conservatives do find it somewhat interesting that Wall Streeter’s contribute so heavily to democrats

Corporations contribute heavily to both sides. Don't you get it?

Originally Posted by BobbyJim

Speaking of lunch-pail issues, here are some study results from 2004 that have some interesting conclusions.

(Caution: Past results are not an indication of future results. Your results may vary. Objects in rearview mirror are closer than they appear.)

“But here's Wall Street's strange little irony -- studies show the stock market performs better and tends to be less volatile when Democrats are in power.”

"It thus seems that the difference in realized returns can be attributed to the market being systematically positively surprised by Democratic policies…."

Stock markets historically do better under Dems than Reps. - Jan. 22, 2004

I was referring to their views on "right to work". But, ok, wall street does better under Dems? What's the problem? I guess that makes us smarter? Going back to the right to work issue. I don't think anyone can dispute the fact that this county did best at height of unionism. Thus, the birth of groups like the lunchpailers. Modern Republicans have been trained that unions are the devil. BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I guess that position is being rethought?

P.S. I wish Scott Walker the best.


Abner

Originally Posted by Kizmet

Corporations contribute heavily to both sides. Don't you get it?

Ditto.

Abner

Originally Posted by Kizmet

Corporations contribute heavily to both sides. Don't you get it?

Of course I understand corporations hedging thier bets but I find it somewhat hypocritical for Wall Streeters to contribute heavily to liberals that continually bad mouth Wall Street and capitalism in general. Don't you?