What the Right Gets Right

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  1. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    A very interesting read!

    "What insights, principles, and analyses does this movement have to offer that liberals and Democrats might want to take into account?"
    What the Right Gets Right - NYTimes.com
     
  2. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    Quoted from the link:
    Andy Stern, former president of the Service Employees International Union (one of our era’s few highly successful labor organizations) and now a senior fellow at Columbia University’s Richman Center, made five points about conservatives in an email to me:

    “They appreciate more instinctively the need for fiscal balance.”

    “They understand people’s more innate belief in hard work and individual responsibility and see government as too often lacking that understanding.”

    “They are more suspicious from a philosophical point of view of big government as an answer to many issues and are suspicious of Wall Street institutionally and not just their high salaries, and bad practices.”

    “They respect the need for private sector economic growth (although their prescription is lacking).”

    “They are more pro-small business.”
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I am (conditionally) willing to buy the other points but I see no evidence of this one. If anything, I see the opposite.
     
  4. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    That one seemed odd to me as well.

    The right seems to worship Wall Street for the most part.
     
  5. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  7. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    You folks would dispute “Andy Stern, former president of the Service Employees International Union (one of our era’s few highly successful labor organizations) and now a senior fellow at Columbia University’s Richman Center…” Really?:shock:

    Did anyone actually read the article?:arg:
     
  8. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    To quote the loquacious Joe Biden, "Yes," to both.
     
  9. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    "Yes" to both.

    Abner :smile:
     
  10. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    muddy waters

    Me, stir the pot???? Well, maybe just a little bit.:scool: I do believe that conservatives do find it somewhat interesting that Wall Streeter’s contribute so heavily to democrats......if this is the bastion of capitalism and all such evils that liberal democrats denounce publically!

    However, back to the article….I do think it interesting that some liberals are stating some opinions about conservatives that are not the standard sound-bites.:biggrin:
     
  11. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    And vice versa. Look in to the lunch pail republicans.

    Abner :smile:
     
  12. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    Lunch-pail politics

    Speaking of lunch-pail issues, here are some study results from 2004 that have some interesting conclusions.

    (Caution: Past results are not an indication of future results. Your results may vary. Objects in rearview mirror are closer than they appear.:scool:)

    “But here's Wall Street's strange little irony -- studies show the stock market performs better and tends to be less volatile when Democrats are in power.”

    "It thus seems that the difference in realized returns can be attributed to the market being systematically positively surprised by Democratic policies…."

    Stock markets historically do better under Dems than Reps. - Jan. 22, 2004
     
  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Corporations contribute heavily to both sides. Don't you get it?
     
  14. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    I was referring to their views on "right to work". But, ok, wall street does better under Dems? What's the problem? I guess that makes us smarter? Going back to the right to work issue. I don't think anyone can dispute the fact that this county did best at height of unionism. Thus, the birth of groups like the lunchpailers. Modern Republicans have been trained that unions are the devil. BWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!! :evil: I guess that position is being rethought?

    P.S. I wish Scott Walker the best. :evil:


    Abner :smile:
     
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  15. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Ditto.

    Abner
     
  16. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    hedging your bets

    Of course I understand corporations hedging thier bets :squareeyed: but I find it somewhat hypocritical for Wall Streeters to contribute heavily to liberals that continually bad mouth Wall Street and capitalism in general. Don't you?
     
  17. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member


    Except for SEIU, I don't see union growth. Do you have some info on that?
     
  18. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    And you are asking because........? Maybe that's the problem. Many companies are finding it is not necessarily cheaper to hire cheap labor, from say China, as it used to be.


    Abner
     
  19. BobbyJim

    BobbyJim New Member

    I’m asking just because I’m curious to know if unions (non-SEIU) are adding numbers and thought you had some insight. Nothing sinister about my question! I have a manufacturing and construction engineering background, and certainly would like to see more manufacturing in the USA….union and non-union.
     
  20. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Of course. They're all bitches with no morals. They worship the dollar and nothing else.
     

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