Herman Cain: Viable Candidate?

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  1. raristud

    raristud Member

    Now that Herman is thinking about suing politico, adding to campaign conflicts, what are his chances of surviving the primaries? These allegations are not what the Republican party prefers to have on their dinner plates going into the general election cycle.

    Cain mulls lawsuit against Politico: aide | Reuters
     
  2. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    Cain would have a case against politico... and honestly I'd vote for the man over Romney or Perry. I've heard that the Perry campaign may even be involved in all this Cain sexual harassment stuff and being in and from Texas let me tell you, Perry is dirty. The man just ran for governor without a single debate and won. We're stuck with him down here but hopefully the rest of the country has figured him out. Romney is just too liberal and then he's not, and then he is, then he's not again. I'll pass...
     
  3. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Even with his passive/aggressive language and his accusations of sexual harassment, he is still by far the most likable and probably the most intelligent of all of the Republican candidates. His flaw is that he has shown himself to be poorly informed on the economy, the constitution and foreign policy. At times he has had "secret" answers to important questions which seem to be a cover up for even further ignorance. The Republican voters don't seem to care about that, however. They like his vision and will likely vote for it.
     
  4. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Aww; can't Jon Huntsman come out of this race with anything? Smart, took an unschooling nontraditional path so he's one of our people - he left high school to play keyboard in a band, then earned a GED and went to state university before transferring to Penn - has a quirky sense of humour, would be an entirely interesting guy to share, er, maybe a grape juice with.
     
  5. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Who? :moon:
     
  6. JWC

    JWC New Member

    Mitt Romney will be the nominee and next president!

    GO MITT GO!
     
  7. raristud

    raristud Member

    Huntsman appears to be a candidate that I would support, even though he may not draw much media attention or have the excitement that Obama would draw. He has a wealth of executive experience serving as a governor, assistant deputy secretary of commerce, deputy trade representative, and US Ambassador. Huntsman also has business experience. At the very least, he should be picked for VP, secretary of state, or commerce if a Republican were to win the general election. Any thoughts?

    Jon Huntsman, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
     
  8. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Mr. Cain might appear to be a viable candidate in a republican primary election but he could never win a general election.
     
  9. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    But the Republican Party would never completely screw up their nomination process, select an aggressive African American radio host appealing to their base but disastrously unsaleable in a general election, and put him up against Barack Obama in a race in which the Republicans could have had considerable structural advantages and a really good shot at winning. Oh, wait.
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Why do you think so? Granted it's early days still, but at least one poll showed him beating Obama in a hypothetical matchup.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    My thinking is this: In a primary election a candidate has to play to the extremes of their party. In this case Mr. Cain has to play to the right. But in a general election one has to play to the middle and that is his weakness. He will never appeal to the moderates of either party because of the positions he has adopted. He will lose some moderate righties and he will never pull any moderate lefties over the line. Because of that he will lose. Obviously I'm speculating (as are we all) but I"ll bet you a dollar that he doesn't even come close to winning the Republican nomination.
     
  12. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    If there ever is a an Obama Cain matchup, Obama would knock the Godfather's Pizza right out of Cain's beer belly! Chingos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Abner :smile:
     
  13. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    All Presidential candidates are poorly informed about anything the President needs to be concerned about, because they are not yet the President. This is why the campaign is irrelevant and why candidates who campaign on one platform often end up on the same course as the previous President. Security Clearance is a wonderful thing.

    Now if we presume that a general knowledge of history and economics is a good thing to have prior to becoming President, sure. But I'd say that the level of things the President is often counseled on lay beyond the majority of people with solid general knowledge to effectively use without counsel. Ergo.. no one is qualified to be President until they are one; hence incumbancy being a very important thing regardless of anyone's political leanings.

    ITJD.
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    This is clearly untrue because some presidential candidates are presently the president.

    BTW, no one will accept my small $1 bet. Not much conviction there.
     
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  15. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Including the present president who presently presides as president.
     
  16. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

  17. major56

    major56 Active Member

    I’ll bite … you’re on! :smokin:
     
  18. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    The allegations against Cain are serious. Sharon Bialek's very specific account describes sexual assault.
     
  19. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    It is disturbing, but I'm not sure what to believe. If Cain is really guilty of those offenses, you have to believe that other than being a bad person, he is also complete moron for thinking that he can ever be a public figure having a history like that.

    His guilt, however, is not for certain. He said/she said is all we have at the moment.
     
  20. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    In the 2004 primary cycle, and the early runnings of the 2008, I supported, ahem, John Edwards.

    That didn't go so well.

    In the John Edwards case, of course, there were never allegations of anything nonconsensual, so the floor to which he would fall with the repercussions even in the worst case scenario if the allegations were proven, admitted or widely determined likely to be true would not be remotely as far down as the floor to which Herman Cain would fall if even some of the allegations were proven, admitted or widely determined likely to be true.

    Even still. Have you seen how low the floor was for John Edwards in the end?

    Republican and conservative friends: you don't want this to happen to you!

    *shivers*
     

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