Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by raristud, Apr 27, 2011.

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  1. raristud

    raristud Member

  2. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    Dude it's about time....but why not let the media obtain the copy from the state? Now we have to here about how he doctored it. It's like he wants the drama.
     
  3. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Interesting. Look at the check box near the bottom where it allows you to mark "MD, DO, midwife" but I don't think DOs could practice until later, like the late late 60's. Why would that be an option on an old form?
     
  4. GeneralSnus

    GeneralSnus Member

    If you read the source materials, you'll see the President had his private counsel request that the State of Hawaii violate its longstanding policy, and the State of Hawaii had to agree to waive its policy. It's not nearly as simple a matter as folks seem to think. I highly doubt this disclosure will change the minds of very many of those who believe the President is not a natural born U.S. citizen.
     
  5. GeneralSnus

    GeneralSnus Member

    Hawaii has licensed osteopathic physicians to practice since at least 1921.
     
  6. mcjon77

    mcjon77 Member

    Thats why I wouldn't have bothered, if I was the president. He is not gaining anything from this. The folks that doubted where he was born would NEVER vote for him anyway. Does anyone honestly believe that ANY of these birthers are now going to support him for 2012?

    He should have let this keep going while the GOP rips itself apart.
     
  7. raristud

    raristud Member

  8. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Wait for it...

    ...now there will be a big backlash against Obama for using his political clout to get Hawaii to make an exception to its policy- the dirty power-hungry scoundrel! Oh, and how dare the corrupt politician waste time on obtaining a birth certificate when there are wars raging and a struggling economy! Lest we forget how much taxpayer money was wasted on this OBVIOUSLY FAKE long-form birth certificate.
     
  9. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Because there is only ONE COPY and it has to stay in records. Sheesh.
     
  10. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Trump now takes credit for this? What a jackass! Now he and his cohorts must determine whether it is authentic or not? Give me a break. WHAT A CLOWN!

    Abner
     
  11. raristud

    raristud Member

    Now hopefully the matter can be put to rest. As the birther dust settles, international conflicts and a frail economy will still be at his door step.
     
  12. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

  13. mattbrent

    mattbrent Well-Known Member

  14. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    It's amazing, really. I've been deliberately avoiding reading or hearing anything about it, yet it has been in my face so often that I can't help but to have absorbed some of the details. I wish I could say that I didn't know who the bride in groom were... just like I wish I could say that I don't know the lyrics to any Justin Bieber song. Why does the world torture me with such useless trivia?! :saevilw:
     
  15. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    I am by no means a birther. I just find it strange that the President of the U.S. waited until 2.5 years into his term to produce a document that I had to produce to enlist in the Army, I had to provide for my kids to enroll them in school, I had to provide for a passport, etc. As if the double-standard for those who serve in government was not blatant enough.............
     
  16. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    The document that Obama released a million and a half years ago, the so-called "short-form," is exactly what would be necessary to enlist in the army. You might not be a birther, but you demonstrate just how pervasive their misinformation campaign has been.
     
  17. Hadashi no Gen

    Hadashi no Gen New Member

    Well, it looks like Trump has his own political problems ;)
     
  18. mcjon77

    mcjon77 Member

    This is blatantly inaccurate. The document that Hawaii issue to ALL people born there is the short form birth certificate. ANY potential enlistee into the military born in Hawaii, and ANY person born in Hawaii who is trying to get a U.S. passport would get the EXACT SAME short form birth certificate that the President released 2.5 years ago. That short form birth certificate is the ONLY birth certificate the state will issue NOW.

    The only reason why the president was able to get the long form birth certificate this week was that his private attorney had to request to the state of Hawaii that they BREAK THEIR OWN RULES and get a copy of the original birth certificate. The only special treatment/double standard that was here was that this week, the president's lawyer got Hawaii to make an exception to their rules and released his long-form birth certificate.

    Something similar happened in my home state of Illinois. I was born back in the '70s, and my original birth certificate looked a lot like the President's long form birth certificate, which is also what I suspect your birth certificate looked like. When I went to elementary school, my mom requested another copy of my birth certificate and got a copy of the same long form birth certificate.

    Around 2004, I wanted to get a passport and didn't have a copy of my birth certificate. When I went to get a copy of my birth certificate they gave me a certificate similar to the short form the president initially submitted. I asked about it back then, since it looked so different from my original certificate, and the response I got was that this is what the state of Illinois was issuing now, NOT copies of my original birth certificate. Did the U.S. state department have any problems issuing me a passport with this new, shortened birth certificate? OF COURSE NOT.
     
  19. Y-RAG

    Y-RAG New Member

    holy crap,do you all still need to see his birth cert...for cryin out loud...get over it already!AS YOU CAN SEE,THERE'S NO MYSTERY,unless you have forensics closely examine,TRUMP YOUR THE NEW BLOWHOLE...taking over for ole FATSO himself...LIMBAUGH...I wish O'B, kept it hidden from the public,let the birthers, waste their loadsdon't supply any info to satisfy "ORANGE HAIR"!It took a long time to produce, because he had a lot of drawers to go through!
     
  20. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

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