US Fake School Scamming Students from India

AP Wire: SAN FRANCISCO – The government of India is urging the United States to show leniency toward Indian students who were enrolled at a "sham university" in California that U.S. authorities say was a front for illegal immigration.
The U.S. attorney's office alleges the owner of Tri-Valley University in Pleasanton used the unaccredited school to charge foreigners millions of dollars in tuition fees and help them obtain student visas to stay in the U.S.
Officials at Tri-Valley did not immediately respond to a request for comment Monday.
There were 1,555 students enrolled at Tri-Valley last fall and about 95 percent of them were from India, according to a complaint filed Jan. 19 in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.

Full story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_us/us_university_immigration_fraud

 

I like her mansion, which she used the money from scam. hahaha

 

I'm sure many of these "students" knew exactly what was going on...

 

Oh, yeah...I am sure they knew the fact before enrolling this bogus university. All they want is a visa to stay in the United States.

URL: Lincoln University -- Tri-Valley University : Which is better

The funny part that the Foreign Ministry of India urged the United States do not put the monitoring devices on the students because they are not criminal. Well, what they have done are fraud, which same as felony.

 

Are you guys nuts?

Those students were here in the USA legally! Even if the school is unaccredited the students (according to the article - I'm assuming the article is correct) all had real students visas issued by the american government.

If someone must be sued and face jail, it is the ones issuing Visas for unaccredited schools. But not the students.

Most american students don't know shit about accreditation here and you expect all the foreigners to know?

I do, but all can tell that most foreigner students in my school don't. They don't have any freaking idea of what regional accreditation or national accreditation is (especially because in almost every country on earth, other than the USA, there's no accreditation per se - it's the government that allows a College/University to exist.)

Why the fuck are they being treated like criminals?

I already think it is stupid and inhuman to treat illegals like this - legal immigrants then, it's just absurd and sad.

Radio collars? Really? Like little dogs? Very civilized...

 

They are wearing ankle monitors, you make it sound like they have collars around their necks.

They aren't studying at an accredited school, they are in violation of the terms of their visas. It's completely acceptable for the US government to monitor the location of these students. They are lucky they haven't been detained and can move about freely.

 

Ankle bracelets, not radio collars. And I'm sure that's better than being detained while their cases are pending. The issue isn't whether the school is accredited, it's whether it's really a school or if it's an operation in business to facilitate student visa fraud. Yes, this "school" (and many like it across the U.S.) accepts money from its "students," but they're not paying for an education. Instead, they're paying for a service to fool the State Dept. into issuing an F1 visa, which will permit them to remain in the U.S. for an indefinite period and to travel back and forth relatively freely. Unfortunately, you are not likely to find many unwitting victims among the students referenced in the article. What's next for the students? Many will suddenly fall in love with U.S. citizens and seek permanent residence through their new marriages.

 

Calm down, your tone in this thread is not very nice. Especially using the profanity language. If you follow the case closely, you'll notice that many students original from the accredited schools then transferred to Tri-Valley University. Their purpose is to get a student visa renew in order to stay in the United States. I don't know anything about their academic standing; however, their base on their intentional purposes because they are not enroll into appropriate number of credits.

FJD, and AUTiger00 are correct about the tracking device. Where did you get the information that Law Enforcement uses "Radio Collars?"

 

"Tri-Valley University is accredited by International Association of Bible Colleges and Seminaries (IABCS). Some individual academic programs also apply for specific accreditation, such as the J. D. program is seeking provisional accreditation status with American Bar Association (ABA); Pharm. D. program plans to seek Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE) accreditation. Tri-Valley University is licensed to operate in Pleasanton, California. According to State of California Education Code with the Bureau for Private Post-Secondary and Vocation Education, California has state religious exemption provision. Tri-Valley University is also authorized by the Federal Government to admit international students and issuing I20 for F-1 Visa."

I like the fact that this school is seeking for the American Bar Association accreditation for their JD program. hahaha

 

Feds probe Calif. 'sham university' for visa fraud - U.S. news - msnbc.com

 

Ankle bracelets... collars for your feet.

 

I can understand your anger, and I agree with some of it. But, as others are requesting, please tone it down a bit. Thanks so much! :smile:

 

"The radio collars should immediately be removed." Same language from different region. hehehe

 

No, it's not because it was the same US government that gave them the visa in first place.

Dude, in most (if not all) countries in the world, a high learning institution can only operate if the government authorizes - there's no accreditation per se.

Even in the USA most students are not really aware about the accreditation issue - do you really expect a foreigner to know this when the american government gives them a visa?

Most reasonable people would think they OK are since the US let them in legally.

I don't doubt some students knew the school was a fraud but I can bet most didn't.
I study in a school with more than 60% of foreigner students like me - most don't have any idea what accreditation is.

You have a case where people did everything legally and are being treated like criminals. Ridiculous.

I'm shocked how some americans think it's ok to treat foreigners like sub-human beings.

The school was unaccredited? First, the mistake was made by the US embassy that gave them the visa in the first place.

The students should be contacted and told that they have to leave the country (and give a good time to prepare to do so). To put a freaking collar (ok, ankle collar) like they are suspects in some serious crime it's absurd.

 

Dude, the school committed a crime and the US embassy committed a mistake. You cannot just assume the students were involved. What happened with not being guilty until proven otherwise? Ohhh, they are bloody foreigners, that it's not applicable to them!

 

Sorry, I won't tone down - there's a case here of people that didn't do anything illegal being treated without any respect by american authorities and everyone agreeing just because they are foreigners. Sorry if I feel attacked by that as I'm a foreigner here too.

Feel free to ban from the forum. Whatever.

The students didn't do anything illegal and are being treated like someone that crossed the border from Mexico. As I don't think even those people should be treated the way they are by the immigration officers, I definitely don't think someone should have "no rights" whatsoever just because he/she it's a foreigner.

Just think - would that happen with an american citizen? Of course no. They would give a notice to go to court. Those students should get a notice to regularize the situation or leave the country. They should not be put in a situation reserved for child molester and wife beaters (radio collars).

Unless the authorities have any evidence that they were willingly participating in a fraud scheme, they should be assumed innocent. ESPECIALLY, I repeat, because the US government issued the visas.

I was particularly offended by the tone of AUTiger: "I'm sure many of these "students" knew exactly what was going on..."

Who does he f*** (the're you go, self-censorship if that makes you happy) know that? So, any foreigner here is automatically a criminal and a fraud?

 

Rephrasing George Orwell... some people are more equal than others.

 

No, it's not that easy for, say, a 20ish single male from a developing country to get a tourist visa honestly. That individual needs to prove he is not really an intending immigrant and will return home in 6 months. With little ties to home, it's not easy to prove.

Unfortunately, with the U.S. as an attractive destination for intending immigrants, there's plenty of adverse selection going on. Unfortunate, but true. And I can't say that I blame them, either. Also, please, stop with the accusations and rough language. I can take it, but it just makes you sound foolish.

 

FJD, as someone that lived back and forth between Brazil and the Usa, I think I have a little experience in getting a visa. It is easier to get a tourist visa than a sutdent one, be ause for a student visa you need to show the money for the whole period of study. In both cases a 20sh guy from a developing country would have a hard time, but the student visa would be still harder.

About the language and tone...yeah, let's focus one or two random F-words instead of focusing on the fact that the american government is treating innocent people as criminals just because they are not americans (and because a mistake made by the american government to begin with).

Sorry if I got angry here but the xenophobic tone of this thread was really sick.

 

Everyone gets angry, that's normal and natural. However, anger does not need to result in bad behavior or language.