What it means to wear a gun in public

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Abner, Aug 22, 2009.

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Here is one thing I am wondering about. Cops bear arms in the commision of their duty. Part of their responsibility is to abstain from drinking while on duty. Obviously, drinking and guns are not a good mixture. I would imagine these private armed citizens are held to the same criteria? And if so, how is that monitored since they have no superiors checking on them?

    And yes, I know, these Beck followers have permits. :)

    See article:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/08/22/sirota_guns/index.html?source=rss&aim=/opinion/feature


    Abner
     
  2. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    There is only ONE lawful government!!!

    Those people who are attempting to overthrow the lawful government are traitors and should be hanged or shot -- whichever is more expeditious and convenient for the government -- to include John Dickinson, Edmund Randolph, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, Roger Sherman, James Wilson, Gouverneur Morris, George Wythe and others. Long live Great Britain! :eek: ;)
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I shoot at the local gun club. I own a Kimber 22 and an M1 Garand. They are both locked up tight. I've seen people (men) wearing holstered handguns in public. This was in Flagstaff and other parts of Arizona. I don't really know why they felt the need to wear holstered weapons on the street. I found it threatening. I can only assume that was their intent.
     
  4. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, the Republican party extremists are being rallied into a frenzy by right wing radio/TV thugs who advocate violence and even murder, and the quashing of civil discussion. I just can't help to think how pathetic these right wing radio show drones look when they start yelling at the top of their lungs about DEATH Panels!!!!!! They want to kill grandma!!!!!!! When all you see is clips of these idiots yelling over people rather than trying to have a discussion, in essence they are ending democratic debate among citizens. They are lucky they are allowed in to these townhall meetings, unlike 8 years of Dubya. His boys always handpicked his audiences.

    Pathetic crap.

    Abner
     
  5. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    When I lived in Texas and the concealed-carry permit came into effect shortly thereafter I always felt safer whenever I walked into my local bank. On the other hand, I avoided the "club district" like the plague; at least one shooting a weekend down there. Conclusion: the thugs were too scared to rob a bank because granny might draw a bead on them but had no fear mugging someone at gunpoint on the street even in a crowd.
     
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I've never lived in Texas but I'm guessing that banks don't get robbed there any more often than any other place. The idea of being comforted by the fact that some unknown number of unknown people are carrying concealed weapons and in the unlikely event that you might be present during a bank robbery, well that's stretching it a bit too far for me.

    As for me, I do all my banking online.
     
  7. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    My hourly cheque was direct deposit but my per diem cheque was a physical document that necessitated a bi-weekly visit to the bank to make the deposit. These days I do all my banking online as well and rarely step inside a bank.
     
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  8. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

  9. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member


    I challenge you to find one instance of what you note above and provide some support.
     
  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Personally, I think one should wear a good sixteenth-century samurai sword in public.
     
  11. jaer57

    jaer57 New Member

    Those are some pretty harsh accusations; I missed those statistics and police reports on the murders and violence, but then again, don't let the facts get in the way of a good partisan snipe. Both sides do a good job at it all the time. Partisans always seem to have tunnel vision...

    Both parties are ridiculously corrupt. At least the presidency has term limits; oh how I dream for term limits for everyone else...
     
  12. jaer57

    jaer57 New Member

  13. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Afghans in Afghanistan disagree with you because their preferred weapon-of-choice is the AK47. ;) :eek:
     
  14. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

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    Abner Well-Known Member

     
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  16. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Here's a question for you Abner --

    Are you willing to condemn ALL DISRUPTIVE POLITICAL DEMONSTRATIONS, regardless of whether they are mounted by the left or the right?

    If you are, then I'll join you in doing it.

    But if you are demanding immunities for the left that you are unwilling to see extended to the right, then I'll just call you a hypocrite.

    Here's just a few recent examples from just a single left-wing activist organization --

    On January 20, 2005, Code Pink protesters infiltrated President G.W. Bush's second inaugural address, unfurling banners and heckled the president during his speech until they were removed. They had reportedly been given VIP passes by unidentified members of Congress.

    On September 21, 2006: Code Pink blocked traffic on San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge for several hours during morning rush hour.

    On September 10, 2007 Code Pink interrupted General David Petraeus' testimony before Congress.

    On October 24, 2007 an event featuring Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was disrupted. (For some reason, that apparently wasn't "racism".)

    On September 4, 2008 at the 2008 Republican National Convention, Code Pink activists attempted to confront nominee John McCain onstage while he was giving his acceptance speech.

    It most definitely is.

    I'm all in favor of civility, thoughtfulness and reasoned discussion in political life. But all sides have to behave responsibly, regardless of which party is in power.

    So do you have the courage to join me in condemning politically motivated disruptive acts, without any regard to which side is conducting them?
     
  17. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    But samurai swords have so much more history behind them than mere AK47s. ;) :eek:
     
  18. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    Apparently you have not fully read my posts, as you have a habit of doing.

    Have a good day,

    Abner
     
  19. jaer57

    jaer57 New Member

    Glenn Beck fantisizing about murdering Michael Moore ≠ "Republican party extremists are being rallied into a frenzy by right wing radio/TV thugs who advocate violence and even murder, and the quashing of civil discussion."

    Last I checked, Michael Moore has survived the violent murderous frenzy that you allege is out there.

    I'm hardly misrepresenting what you said. You said republican party extremists are being rallied into a "frenzy" by people who advocate "violence and even murder." A blog talking about a talking head fantasizing about a murder is hardly evidence of the extremist "frenzy". All it implies is that everyone who listens to Glenn Beck is a "republican party extremist". What you are saying is just as careless as the scare tactics being used by those you're deriding.

    There are plenty of extremists out there; how those NOT breaking the law, like the man in the original salon article, are lumped into the category of extremist is beyond me. I can only see it as a scare tactic that is just as dishonest as every other scare tactic being used out there. And both sides are extremely guilty of scare tactics; it's completely dishonest to say otherwise.

    If you want to look up something actually worth being scared about, you should probably pick up your local news and read about all the senseless murders that happen every day. Walking the streets of west Baltimore scares me more than walking through a New Hampshire protest...
     
  20. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    I guess talking about carrying murders will never incite someone to murder? This my only point. You have misrepresented my comments. Both sides are guilty of scare tactics, as I have said previously. My point is that the extremist right wing radio heads seem to talk about murder a lot. They even fantasize about it? You mean to tell me this has not incited someone to murder? I would speculate the guy who shoot those people in the church spent several hours being brainwashed by his many right wing books, along with hours of radio. Of course, books and radio nuts did not force him to commit the murders. It should makes us pause for a moment.

    Have a good one,

    Abner
     
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