Palin adviser warned that firing raised 'grave' concern

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  2. buckwheat3

    buckwheat3 Master of the Obvious

    Doesn't matter, I'm still voting for the "Hottie" and that old guy too!
    Hey what the heck, if women could vote JFK in office because of good looks then..... this is payback:D
     
  3. Fortunato

    Fortunato Member

    Women didn't vote JFK into office because of his looks, he won that election on the strength of some quite questionable election returns from Texas and Illinois. But if you are choosing who to vote for based on physical appearance, then you deserve exactly what you get.

    John McCain is hoping the MILF factor combined with women that are still upset over Hillary's loss will peel enough votes off of Obama to get him to the White House. The presidency has become McCain's white whale, and it doesn't seem to matter to him that Sarah Palin is batshit insane.

    Here's some facts about "Slick Sarah" that matter much, much more than her appearance:

    1. She may have said "Thanks, but no thanks" for that bridge to Nowhere, but she kept the money. In fact, she used some of that money to build a road to where the bridge was planned to go. The road leads to an empty beach now, but who knows? Maybe one day they can slip another earmark in and get that bridge built! Palin's been an enthusiastic seeker of earmarks pretty much since she got into public service. In fact, on a per capita basis, Alaska receives more earmark dollars than any other state (source).

    2. Sarah Palin raised taxes in order to increase welfare payments. You heard me right. She raised taxes paid by oil companies in Alaska from 10% to 25% so that she could send every man, woman, and child in Alaska an extra $1200 in addition the roughly $2000 annual dividend they already receive from the Alaska Permanent Fund. In a spectacular twofer, the tax increase also managed to raise the price of gas for the rest of us (source).

    3. As mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin asked rape victims to bear the cost of "rape kits", which are used to preserve evidence and convict attackers. The kits cost between $300 and $1200. Wasilla's police chief (appointed by Palin) claimed that it was unreasonable to expect the town's taxpayers to pay for the kits, because it would have meant spending an extra $5000-$14000 per year (source). During Palin's tenure as mayor, Wasilla spent $14.7 million dollars on a ice-hockey rink and athletic complex (source). As an aside, the Democrat's VP candidate, Joe Biden, wrote and sponsored the Violence Against Women Act that requires law enforcement agencies that receive federal funds to provide for rape kits without any cost to the victim.

    I could go on (Trooper-gate, book-banning escapades, anti-Semitic preachers in her church, husband is a secessionist, etc...), but to be honest, if this stuff doesn't already scare the stuffing out of you, nothing will. Sarah Palin may be one hot tamale, but the thought of her as Vice-President should give you heartburn.
     
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  4. alleycat1

    alleycat1 New Member

    Everything you have listed is spot on and that just what we know about. The campaign is still sheltering her from the media. Why? Not because her daughter is with child at such a young age its because they are hidding something. That something is her and her lack of world affairs, national security, fical management ect ect. She might be great for Alaska population600,000 but she is not great for America.

    With everything that is going on in this very complex world we do not need some trigger happy person in office. I'm afraid it will be Palins way or the highway for most of us. Her stance on womens rights and services is enough to make ones skin crawl. As a mother daughters it make me sick to think that their reproductive rights will probably be repealed if these two make it into office. That my sons will probably facing the draft. That we be faced off with another country that is just a large as us and has nuclear weapons and world war 3 will be at our door step. More of our troops will be lost. We just can't afford this as nation. Look at the economy, we are tanking and tanking quickly. Jobs gone and not being replaced, houses being lost by the thousands, not enough money to meet our daily expenses. Can you say recession 10 time quickly. We need help not more harm brought to us!

    Something also to think about how dare Mccain the 4 time cancer survive even dare to run for office! Knowing full well that his cancers are more then likely going to resurface and will leave us as a nation with either a very sick president or a dead president. So we will be faced with the changing of the guard.

    So when you vote just know that you will be voting for President Palin the woman that is hiding, has not be vetted properly and we really just do not know enough about her to place her one step away from the most powerful job in our land. Remember Spiro Agnew and what happenened when he was vp, because he was not vetted properly. Sarah let troopergate continue so we may found out even more about you and how you handle people that are below you.
     
  5. buckwheat3

    buckwheat3 Master of the Obvious

     
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  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    It's pure, unadulterated entertainment the way the Dems and lefties have become positively apoplectic since Sarah Palin was named as McCain's VP pick. Two Boston Herald columnists (Margery Eagan and Peter Gelzinis) simply can't stop writing about how much they hate her. It's like they're driven by forces they can't control.

    Now, it's gone way beyond hyperbole, with people now actually suggesting she's "batshit insane". Based on what psychological assessment?

    We can certainly agree to disagree about politics, but to suggest someone is "insane" simply because you don't agree with them is intellectually bankrupt and seriously undermines your credibility.

    Oh, and as far as "Troopergate", if I pulled half of the stuff I've read that this trooper allegedly did, I'd get launched so quickly my ass wouldn't hit the ground until it got to the unemployment line.
     
  7. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    This Troopergate "controversy" is crap. The Public Safety Commissioner (Monegan) was an AT-WILL employee. Palin could have fired him for wearing the wrong color tie, being too short, or having bad breath. If she would not have fired him the left would have been screaming that she used her postion to protect her scum-bag brother in law - the one who TASERED A TEN YEAR OLD BOY.
     
  8. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member


    Seriously? It is a shame that your vote counts the same as someone who has taken the time to get informed.
     
  9. Fortunato

    Fortunato Member

    I don't suggest she is insane simply because I don't agree with her. I suggested she is insane because the publicly available evidence suggests that she sees her public office as a truncheon to be used in waging in her personal vendettas, because she continues to spout nonsense about fighting earmarks well after it's been proven that her career is built on chasing them, and because HER POLICE DEPARTMENT SENT BILLS TO RAPE VICTIMS, for the love of Xenu.

    Come now, Bruce. I have a lot of respect for what you do as a moderator, but this is the same board where I've seen people refer to "Obama Bin Laden". I didn't see you rushing out to question recruiting's credibility in this thread.

    If the whole "Troopergate" thing is a tempest in a teapot, then why is the McCain campaign beside itself trying to get the investigation postponed until after the election, and why is the governor trying to claim executive privilege on emails that were copied to Todd Palin, a private citizen? The investigation started on a bipartisan basis before Palin was made McCain's veep pick - it didn't become politicized until it looked like it might become a liability for the national ticket.
     
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    It wasn't "her" police department. The majority of police departments in the US (if not all) are controlled by a chief, commissioner, superintendent, colonel, or whatever the particular title is. That person can tell the mayor to go crap in his/her hat, and the only recourse for the mayor is to either fire them (politically & legally risky) or not renew their contract if it's a contractual position.

    It's a far leap indeed to go from political satire (remember the cover of the New Yorker not long ago?) to calling someone insane. I'll wager a fair amount that no mainstream media outlet has gone that far, in spite of their ridiculously slanted bias.

    Very simply, because they don't need the distraction. The ticket needs Palin out on the campaign trail, not in a conference room giving a deposition.

    If you read any of my past posts you'll see I'm among the first to defend the police against baseless allegations, but as I said, if even half the stuff which is alleged is true, then Palin would have been negligent to not fire the trooper in question. And considering the situation, do you really think this trooper has no axe to grind himself?
     
  11. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    The media seems to be totally fascinated by Palin (like deer transfixed by automobile headlights) and it's difficult to turn on the tv news at any hour without seeing her face. Of course much of that coverage is obviously negative. McCain's campaign noticeably gained ground on Obama's after the conventions and the angst among much of the media is palpable.

    I think that might be working in McCain's favor at the moment, with polls showing that Americans are overwhelmingly convinced that the national media are trying to help Obama. (Even many liberals think that, having just watched the press doing their toxic thing to Hillary.)
    Sarah Palin's experience is comparable to Barack Obama's.

    The difference between the two is that Palin's not running for President. She's running for Vice-President, a position not unlike a football practice squad, where she will be able to closely observe the office of the Presidency without having to shoulder the responsibilities.

    And despite your apparent disdain for the state of Alaska, heading up its state government is actually an interesting executive challenge. Alaska is 586,000 square miles in extent, twice the land area of France. Much of that is wilderness, remote and without roads, with a population scattered thinly across many hundreds of miles. A significant area is above the arctic circle and Alaska has all of America's Arctic Ocean frontage. Operating an effective state government in such an unusual place presents unique difficulties. It's even more interesting when we remember all the natural resources that are located up there in Alaska.

    It's true that Palin hasn't been in her Alaska Governor position for very long. Of course Barack Obama hasn't been in the US Senate for very long either.

    Both of them are fresh young faces that are pretty thin on experience, both are visibly outsiders, both are trying to make populist appeals, and both are exploiting popular dissatisfaction by promising "change".

    There's a danger that the voters might opt for her middle-American working-woman appeal, to her easy non-threatening simularity to most of them, over Obama's Islamic name and his unusual childhood, his elite ivy-league schooling, his longtime radical associations and all the passionate cheering from Europe and from the trendy elites here in America that voters sense are disdainful of them.

    That's the battle that the Democrats didn't see coming and it's why they are so obsessively focused now on trashing the woman. She's threatening to out-Barack Obama.
     
  12. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Today I reveived a letter from Sarah Palin, as Governor, inviting me to take my next vacation in Alaska. Nice picure of Palin on Governor's letterhead. No mention of politics but I suspect it was mailed to get her name out there. I wonder if I got mailed because of my republican voter registration (I am getting email from other republican candidates with my name and address being identically formatted).
     
  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I used to get information packets about Florida vacations with a letter from then-Governor Lawton Chiles (how's that for a blast from the past?), so I don't know if I'd read too much into that.

    I've found I get much more political mailings since I went unenrolled several years back, from candidates of all parties.
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  15. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    That is interesting. Here is an article on Palin's management style. Very similar to W and tricky Dick Chenney.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26691018/

    As far as the troopergate thing. She went around saying she was going to cooperate completely, and welcomed any and all inquiries. Let's remember, this investigation was initiated by Republicans. Further, this investigation and matter in general was started well before Palin was chosen as VP candidate. They are now sending teams of lawyers to block and quash said investigation. I find this curious coming from a party that purports to despise lawyers, and who have said they are champions of tort reform. Now, onto the notion that this investigation will be a distraction. Who cares? The McCain Vetting machine should have thought of that before they chose her. Ah, I could go on and on. Either way, it will be over soon. As I have said before, she is just a fleeting distraction. Her newness and novelty is already to starting to wear off, especially in light of all the hard hits the economy has been taking. Now it is time to focus on the economy and get away from pigs and pitbulls.

    Onward!!!!


    Abner :)
     
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  16. OnMyWay

    OnMyWay Grand Duchess

    We need a VP that conducts business on her yahoo mail.
     
  17. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    There has been no evidence that any of the hacked email was official business.
     
  18. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Since when have facts slowed down the anti-Palin moonbats? :rolleyes:
     
  19. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    And they are criticizing McCain for not using email. I guess meetings and associations with domestic terrorists is a far less important issues than email habits.
     
  20. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Since when has "personal business" been exempted from presidential politics?
     

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