Palin says that serving in Iraq is "a task from God"

You may read the story in the URL below.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_iraq_war

 

I had serious reservations about her, but after reading that article, I'm completely sold on her! Go Palin!!!!

 

I didn't know anything about her; good, bad or indifferent, so I had no feelings one way or the other. Now that I do know more about her, I think she's a fantastic choice. The fact the Democratic pundits are practically ready to immolate themselves outside the RNC after her speech last night just reinforces that belief.

As for the jackasses in the above story, they apparently don't understand the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Even a curosy reading of the writings of the founding fathers will show how deeply they relied on their relatonship with God to guide them in founding this country.

 

I wonder if God talks to her directly?


Abner

 

There is coming a time when He will talk to ALL of us -- and some of us might not like what He has to say!!!

 

God may not talk to us directly as humans communicate with one another, but indirectly in our dreams and prayers. As some people may criticize palin, Bush has used the "G" name to wish Castro an eventual departure from planet earth.

"one day the Good Lord will take Fidel Castro away" - Bush Jr

"You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

This commandment prohibits not just swearing but also the misappropriation of religious language in order to commit a crime, participating in occult practices, and blaspheming against places or people that are holy to God. (See Catechism 2142–2167.)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

 

Republican religious nuts. Like this idiot:

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/

 

On that note:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa



Abner

 

Oh, yes....Palestinian activists have unimpeachable integrity.

 

I have no objection to political leaders referring to their own religious faith and commitments.

But I do reserve the right to take those kind of matters into account when I'm judging a politician's suitability for office, if I believe that religion is likely to influene their policies and their decision making process.

There's a more philosophical problem as well. In a democracy, issues of public policy are matters that need to available for consideration by all of the voters.

When policies are based on empirical evidence and on rational inference, when they have comprehensible earthly justifications, then those policies can be discussed by everyone who expends the effort to come up to speed on them.

But when policies are justified by divine revelations or by personal a-priori faith commitments, then there's really nothing more that can be said. Certainly not to anyone who stands outside the community that accepts the revelation. That's true for everyone who receives a conflicting divine revelation. (God apparently speaks with many inconsistent voices.) And it's even more problematic for individuals like myself who never receive any communications from God.

 

Here's Palin's entire statement:

http://www.puma08.com/category/palin/

They didn't provide a link to their reference but if theirs is the correct context that she made that statement, then what is so appalling about it? No hint of Divine Revelation at all, just prayer for our leadership. The hate coming from the left concerning this woman is amazing. She is intimidating, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much time trying to demonize her.

 

I say demonize any candidate that is running for the presidency or vice presidency. Tear them apart. I was talking with a friend of mine about Barack Obama. The criticisms about BHO spewed like violent volcanic eruption. They will make decisions that will affect the lives of my children. If I am to vote for a presidential ticket, I want to know the strengths and weaknesses of my candidate of interest. She is not intimidating at all. If someone were to direct those comments at me, I would tell them that my wife is a strong and ambitious women. I find palin to be an attractive women and I love strong women. To me, palin is an interesting candidate.

 

Or at least a posting that quotes part of it.

I don't know if it's appalling. From the AP story:

That could be troubling if Palin thinks that God is actually dictating political policy to her. It might suggest fanaticism and messianism. Perhaps even psychiatric problems.

It probably isn't troubling at all if it's just her metaphorical way of saying that she's trying to do the right thing in her work as Governor, by thinking of that work as God's work.

I expect that the second interpretation is much closer to the truth. But its something to watch. I do think, just speaking of myself here, that Palin's strong religiosity is perhaps the most troubling thing about her. I'm put off by the same kind of characteristics that rally support from the religious right. Obama's campaign might even have an issue here that they could exploit in my particular instance.

Unfortunately, Obama has made remarks of his own that aren't dissimilar from what the Associated Press writer criticized Palin for saying. Regarding the clear political agendas of many black churches, Obama expressed his own opinion that working on behalf of the poor is indeed God's will. Then he stated his own broader views about the role of religion in American public discourse this way:

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/

So Barack Obama very unexpectedly comes to the defense of Sarah Palin. His thinking on the appropriateness of injecting religious rhetoric into discussions of public policy isn't really much different than that of the religious right. It's not a secularist position, which he in fact repudiates.

Where Obama differs from the religious right conservatives is in what he believes God's will actually is, in the kind of political policies that he believes satisfy God's commands and are pleasing to God.

That leaves an individual like myself, a staunch secularist who doesn't even believe in the Judeo-Christian God, a little uneasy with both alternatives in this election.

 

And God said unto Palin.... make thee an natural gas pipeline of hardened metal; pump stations shalt thou make in the pipeline, each, with four pumps.... and thou shalt know that my name is the Lord!!!

 

Though I am biased (I am an unashamed Obama supporter) I would say that McCain did shoot himself in the foot when he picked her.

The Democrats made the same mistake when Dukakis picked Ferrero.

There is nothing wrong with choosing a woman as your running mate, but you should at least do a check on their background before doing so.

 

Actually Geraldine Ferraro was the one that ran with Vice President Walter Mondale on the Democrats ticket.

 

My bad...

I do remember that election though. She seemed ok but her husband had some dirt on him.

It seemed unfortunate that the race was all about the Vice president and not the two candidates.

 

politics and religion don't mix.. too many nutcases go on shooting rampages because God 'told them to'...

 

That reminds me of a song entitled "I kill Children". It is the story of a serial killer who heard voices from God telling him to skin people alive, and of course kill children.

reference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCcny7gosYA


Abner

 

That's messed up, man. Like the intro, though.

If anything, it actually reminds me of "Frailty" with Matthew McConaughey. An underrated gem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frailty