Jesse Jacksons comments re Obama

Politics is dirty but I'm thinking that Jesse is just plain envious.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/09/jesse-jackson-apologizes-for-obama-remarks/

 

The good Reverend merely swings whichever way gets him what he wants... no surprise.

 

Public figures getting caught with hot mikes. Reagan, Jackson, and whoever else. Bad juju.

There is a real rift between the old-school, last vestiges of the civil rights movement and people like Obama, who approach things as Americans first. It is a transition that is both rough and inevitable.

Jackson's comments, while vulgar, really weren't that bad. He was expressing frustration with a guy (Obama) preaching responsibility in the face of others (like Jackson and that fraud Sharpton), who seem to blame the government for everything. It is a clash of values that we already knew existed. It just manifested itself in a very ugly way.

In the end, this is a good thing. Obama needs the old guard, and Jackson removed any grounds left for their resistance.

 

Howie Carr, a Boston talk radio host, has always said that if there's a microphone around you should assume it's turned on.

 

Jackson "was expressing frustration with a guy (Obama) preaching responsibility in the face of others (like Jackson and that fraud Sharpton), who seem to blame the government for everything."

As I recall Jackson and Sharpton were preaching much the same message of personal responsibility during the Million Man March. Reverend Jackson wrote, "Conservatives were surprised that the moral tone and the commitment to personal responsibility sounded much like thier own teaching."

 

I'm not directing this at anyone on this board, so please don't think that I am. I know that "Obamania" is sweeping the nation but I'm just not feeling him. He's intelligent and he gives great speeches but he should - he's a professor. I talk with some of my colleagues at work (black and white) and I notice a recurring theme. My African American colleagues believe that if Barack is elected President that somehow, some way, he's going to give them something. My father echoes that sentiment. My Anglo colleagues, not all but many, are trying to prove that they aren't racist, by voting for him. Those motives bother me but I hope they will eventually rethink their positions.

What really bugs me is that any time any one says anything negative about him, they are attacked. I read somewhere that Jesse Jackson is racist because of what he said about Obama. Jesse Jackson does not hate black people. Jesse Jackson doesn't like Obama (he does support him though). I think Obama is a hustler. I don't think Jesse should have said what he said but I'm glad that he made his disdain public (even if on accident). No, I'm not a fan of Jesse Jackson either.

I appreciate what Obama has been saying about personal responsibility & accountability. I agree what that stance and promote it myself. I think there are some things "we" should speak about in private though. I don't think Jesse is jealous of Barack. I think Jesse thinks "we" were embarrassed by those speeches. I really think that Jesse was trying to defend us (this time).

 

All I know is I can't wait for November!!!!!!!


Abner

 

I will agree that Senator Obama's campaign speeches are well delivered, but his delivery during interviews leaves much to be desired.

The same can be said for certain of Hillary Clinton's female supporters who wanted (want) to she her as president. Supporting or voting for any political candidate in any election based primarily on the candidate's gender, ethnicity, skin-color, sexual preference, or any other genetic or biological attribute is fool-hardy.

The support for Barack Obama, like that for Bill Clinton, is based largely on a message of hope. In both cases, the economy was either in a recession or on the verge of a recession. The Republicans seems to have forgotten that "It's the economy, stupid!"

I trust their votes will be based on the best candidate of either political party instead of voting in a certain way to prove something.

I agree with you.

Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama have two completely different experiences with regards to how they see the condition of the African-American. Jackson lived through the early days of the civil rights movement when racism was at its height; alot has changed since those days as a result of the efforts of various civil rights leaders/activists. On the other hand, Obama has lived during a time when racial equality has largely been achieved, and he has benefited from such an environment. Only a few decades ago it would have been inconceivable that a non-caucasian could even run for the Office of President. Only a few decades ago it would have been inconceivable that a woman could even run for the Office of President.

His message is one with which many people agree. Sadly, there are many people though who want to cling to the past and play the victim role. Hopefully, the next US President, whoever that may be, can snap the citizenry out of that mindset.

 

It was "inconceivable" far more than "a few decades ago."

Shirley Chisholm

It has been more or less inevitable (women, minorities, non-Protestants elected president) for at least the past 25+ years. Since then it has only been a matter of who and when.

 

Take Obama's teleprompter away, and he's a totally different person. I think McCain is going to eat him for lunch during the debates, especially if they're allowed to question each other.

 

That's interesting. I was thinking the exact opposite. I don't think that McCain is all that smart and that he'll wilt in the heat of a debate. As for Obama, I don't know how good of a speaker he is without a teleprompter, and I don't know if it really matters. After all Bushlite got elected twice without being either smart or a good speaker. Like Abner, I think it will be an interesting election season and this November will be something to remember.

 

Obama is the better debater between McCain and himself. I was referring to the smooth flowing thoughts that Obama delivers during speeches become choppy, fragmented thoughts sometimes during an interview. McCain just seems to bungle questions during interviews whenever he veers off the tried-and-true message.

Bush 2 is a bad joke played upon the world, but nobody is laughing unless you count those "sitting in caves trembling in terror."

 

I saw McCain during the primary debates, and he was average until he got mad, then he was brilliant, probably without realizing it.

I don't think it will take long for him to get mad during the upcoming debates.

 

Fun Jesse Jackson Quotes

Jesse Jackson has a bit of a history of saying some rather "colorful" remarks. Here are just a few:

- I cast my bread on the waters long ago. Now it's time for you to send it back to me - toasted and buttered on both sides.

- If there are occasions when my grape turned into a raisin and my joy bell lost its resonance, please forgive me. Charge it to my head and not to my heart.

- When I'm all wiped out on smack, which is acually pretty frequent, I have vivid visions of small girls having a pillowfight with pillows made out of fish scales. Then I get such a mad rush of euphoria that I cannot help but scream my father's name over and over and over...Man, I think I need to go lie down.

- It is time for us to turn to each other, not on each other. (whoops, guess he forgot this one)

- When we're unemployed, we're called lazy; when the whites are unemployed it's called a depression.

- Capital punishment turns the state into a murderer. But imprisonment turns the state into a gay dungeon-master.

- I like to take a plane to Viet-nam on occasion, because the girls are young and the cocaine is fresh.

 

I don't think trying to out debate Obama is the best strategy for McCain.

Pick a few easy to understand, hard to oppose talking points. Hammer it home. Again and again. It'll leave Obama looking like he's the one not giving clear answers as he tries to deliver nuanced responses.

It worked wonders for Bush. Twice. Why change a winning formula?

 

That's actually pretty good.

 

Jesse Jackson: "Capital punishment turns the state into a murderer, but prison turns the state into a gay dungeon master."

That actually is a rather interesting comment. But I would be interested in a policeman's perspective. If we can't kill the criminals and we can't lock them up, what in the heck are we supposed to do with them?

 

I meant it's a witty comment, I don't actually agree with it.

To give you an idea of my views on crime and punishment, I believe child rapists/murderers should be pumped full of plasma and amphetamines (to keep them conscious as long as possible), then lowered very slowly, feet-first, into a running wood chipper.

Any questions?

 

That would be poetic justice.