Physics professor argues against official version of 9/11

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  1. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

    http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0%2C1249%2C635160132%2C00.html

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html
     
  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

  3. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Explosions would have shown on the umpteen films and photographs of the thing. And they would have been heard.
     
  4. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

    Hi decimon. Here are some more links for you.

    For video:

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html

    New York Firefighters Telling of 911 Controlled Demolition, Bombs:
    http://www.letsroll911.org/

    For reports of explosions:
    "...and then all of a sudden it started like... it sounded like gunfire... you know, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang and then all of a sudden three big explosions."
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html

    http://www.911truth.org/

    http://www.rense.com/Datapages/ess911.htm

    http://www.rense.com/Datapages/popmechdat.htm

    http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=511

    http://infowars.com/resources.html

    http://www.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/911roadtotyr.html

    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines.php

    http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/36813.htm

    [This can be heard in the audio file http://VestigialConscience.com/PullIt.mp3 (also at http://sirdave.com/mp3/PullIt.mp3). Thanks to Sir Dave 'tmo' Soule for transfering this from the video to an MP3 file. "America Rebuilds", PBS Home Video, ISBN 0-7806-4006-3, is available from http://shop.pbs.org/products/AREB901/.]

    "Mr. Silverstein's comments stand in direct contradiction to the findings of the extensive FEMA report. They even negate Kevin Spacey's narrative in the very documentary in which they appear; "WTC 7 fell after burning for 7 hours." If it had been generally known that the building was "pulled" wouldn't Mr. Spacey have phrased it that way?"

    http://www.serendipity.li/wot/wtc7newspaper.htm

     
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  5. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

  6. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    I looked at one of those links quoting some firemen, who were inside the building, hearing explosions.

    Anyone inside the building and hearing the demolition charges is not here to tell the story.

    I'm from NYC and worked in Manhattan for many years. I'd been in the WTC many times. I'd parked in the underground lot more than once before they closed it to 'civilians.' I've seen videos and stills of the collapse. I find this conspiracy crap to be crap.
     
  7. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    This DVD is good and unique. It should serve to dispel some of the nonsense.

    I dread to think what Oliver Stone will do with this.
     
  8. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    It’s unbelievable that even with dozens of cameras pointing in the same direction, and thousands of witnesses, many of whom were specialists, there is still room for speculation, conspiracy, and urban legend.
     
  9. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    There is always room for reasoned speculation as there are always things that can't be known.

    BTW - where were you when JFK was shot? ;)
     
  10. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    I think it is a peculiarity of our times. The postmodern man appears to be distrustful of official versions, especially at that side of the pond. Or is it that after all postmodernism only took place there?

    I was in Monrow, Maryland while the President was with Marylin Monroe. Isn´t that fishy .....? :D
     
  11. JLV

    JLV Active Member

    BTW, Decimon, I saw that video you recommend filmed by those two Frenchmen, and I am still horrified about it. A great film, that made me feel absolutely overwhelmed before the mosntruosity that had taken place, and so close to America and Americans.
     
  12. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that film was where it was but could have been in any number of cities in any number of countries. I'm surprised it's not better known.
     
  13. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

    http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

    Let's go back to Dr. Steven Jones. Does anyone here besides Mr. Ted Heiks and myself find this interesting?

    Is Dr. Jones a "conspiracy nut", whatever that means?
     
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  14. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

    And at http://www.letsroll911.org/, if you scroll down just a little bit to "New York Firefighters Telling of 911 Controlled Demolition, Bombs", it is video of NY firefighters talking. If you click on it, and open the file, and if you have windows media player, you can watch the NY fireman on video, discuss what it was like.
     
  15. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

    lol Carl! So does the use of "negative labels" mean that we cannot even consider alternative viewpoints?

    Dr. Jones states in his paper:
     
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  16. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

    Again, Dr. Jones-

     
  17. Conspiracy nuts, and plain old nuts.....

    Oh sure! We can consider alternate viewpoints... For example, I have a theory that the twin towers were brought down by tiny robotic ants controlled by space aliens hovering 10,000 miles above the city in their mothership. The ants were synchronized to disintegrate into anti-matter at precisely the moment the towers came down - because they are so small, none of this could be recorded on camera. Furthermore, I believe that the aliens, the ants, and al-Qaeda are all linked into a massive plot to dominate the earth.

    Do you consider me a "nut" for holding such a theory? And, if so, would I be a "conspiracy nut" or just a "plain ordinary garden variety nut"?
     
  18. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

    Carl, may I please ask why you seem to be attacking me personally?

    I never attacked decimon or anyone else here. I did not call anyone names.

    Decimon made a statement about videos. So, I found and posted some links.

    He in turn made some more comments and posted a link to a DVD at amazon.

    At no time were Decimon and me, or anyone else being rude to each other.

    I noticed also that Decimon used a "smilie" when asking about JFK, to note that he was being friendly.

    But you sir, it seems to that you are being just a bit ill toward me, when I have not been rude to anyone here.

    All that I am asking, is have you read Dr. Jones paper, and what do you think about what he writes about WTC 7 and the "official theory", or are you immediately dismissing what he posits because of "negative labels"?
     
  19. Jacques

    Jacques New Member

    Sir Carl, as to your "theory", I refer again to Dr. Jones-
    :) :D

    ;)

    :cool:

    :confused:
     

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