Very interesting, I can't believe this country is still doing business with these people. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8381265/ Abner
I'm not sure there are any other companies in the world that can do everything that Halliburton does on short notice? They provide one complete, exportable package and get paid very well for it. Who can compete with them?
Haliburton Even if there are others, how would we know since Haliburton was given a no bid contract? These scoundrels are even feeding our troops rancid food! On top of that they have been caught several times charging for food they never served, on and on and on. Talk about robber barrons. Abner
Re: Haliburton I believe if you look at the record, you will find that Halliburton got an extension to an existing contract. As for the food, it is some of the best I ever had at a military dining facility. They provided the meals I consumed in Saravejo in 98 and Baghdad last year. Sure as hell beats MRE's.
Re: Re: Re: Haliburton He he he! Good one Ted! These guys love to fool around then overcharge us (taxpayers). Incredible! What a bunch of great Americans. Good Old fashioned war profiteering a its best. Have a good one Ted! Abner
Meals Ready to Eat MRE's are the military's portable rations. An improvement over the old C's but still not something you would want to live on for any length of time. Haliburton employs roughly 45,000 tax paying Americans out of a total of over 100,000 employees and has been in business since 1919. Apparently, since Cheney served on its board you seem to think the company should be disbarred from ever doing business with the government thus depriving those employees of their ability to work. The only other companies which come even close to the capabilities of Haliburton are non-US so I guess what you are saying is we should send the money to foreign workers? We have a report of rancid food but that is out of how many good meals? As dualrated was so kind to point out from actual experience (as opposed to your leftist blog driven info) they are much better than MRE's and are being served in very extreme conditions. A few bad ones will happen. As they are served all across the country wracked by terrorism on an around the clock basis I would bet mistakes also happen on how many meals are served. I am a secretary of an organization that has an annual banquet serving 350+ guests and there are almost always conflicts with the caterer over how many meals were served do to the differences in how they account for numbers. Multiply that problem to 150,000 soldiers on an around the clock basis and you have an accounting nightmare in the making. Also, the money was refunded to the government even though there was still real confusion over the actual numbers of meals served. Do us a favor, limit your comments to something you are competent to comment on. Neither of you are competent on military matters....
Maybe not, but I am. I spent considerable time in the U.S. Navy Supply Corps. I know something about government contracting. Halliburton's no bid/no competition contracts fly in the face of FAR. If Halliburton were the only possible provider, why was a no bid process even necessary? If RFPs were published as FAR REQUIRES, and Halliburton really were the only responsible bidder, well and good. At least we would have tried to run the system the way it's meant to be run. As it is, the system was short circuited and Cheney's good buddies are reaping their profits.
Do you suppose that Brown and Root's (aka Halliburton) support for LBJ starting in 1948 had anything to do with the lucrative contracts they had during our involvement in Viet Nam?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Haliburton Why, of course! War profiteering is a time-honored tradition which goes back at least to the Civil War in this country.
Re: Meals Ready to Eat You seem to glide over the fact that Haliburton has been caught overcharging for meals they never served. Also for supplies like towels that have their company logo ornately hand stitched into, making the towels cost around $10.00, instead of the standard issues soldier towel, which shoud cost around $2.00. Just a few examples. I could care less about "Tricky" Dick Chenney, this is a matter of taxpayers like you and me being fleeced! Abner
Re: Meals Ready to Eat Do us a favor, limit your comments to something you are competent to comment on. DTECHBA QUOTE DTECHBA: One thing I do know is you will not tell anybody in this forum what they can and cannot comment on. Abner
Re: Meals Ready to Eat The above quote comes from an individual who: (a) won't post his real name; (b) uses for his screen name a degree he hasn't finished yet; (c) refuses to post his credentials earned to his signature line; and (d) presumes to know more about history than someone who actually has a history degree. I think you might be straining your credibility.
People who have been on this board... For any length of time know my credentials. For your info I have an MBA and am/was pursuing a doctorate in business. I am also retired from the United States Army. Without a doubt I know more about history than you do as I had enough history in my undergrad to declare it as a minor, have a lifetime of reading everything from encyclopedias and every other history book I can lay my hand on. I have actually visited most of those places you MAY have read about in books. I have walked the beaches of Dunkirk and Normandy and followed the trench lines of WW1, cruised the castles of central europe visited countless other notable sites in European, american, and Central American history. It is readily apparent from the vacuousness of your posts that your knowledge is generally deriven from the leftist drivel spewed as knowledge in some parts of academia. I do not need a bunch of titles below my name to demonstrate my knowledge. I leave that to the likes of you who need some way to boost their weak self esteem. You two are a couple of kids with no life experience whatsoever and now want to run around you like you know something about something. You don't, those of us who have done a little living do. Try this, I have spent time on every continent in the world other than Antarctica and Australia. I lived in Europe for 12 years and I speak two languages. I am extremely active in politics, far more than posting to a few blogs. I know the last 2 governors of this state personally and most of the legislators,and representatives. The past chairman of the Illinois Democratic party (I am a Republican) authored one of my letters of recommendation to my doctoral program, that partisanship crap is left to blogging idiots like yourself. I am or have been an office holder in 4 social service organizations and 2 youth organizations. I have been an adjunct professor for political science, business, criminal justice and MIS. I currently am a commissioner for a park district. I don't post my name for the same reason rich Douglas wishes he hadn't his. Because small minded pin heads like yourselfs love to take the time to personally and anonymously slander their betters. I get enough of that already for all of my other efforts on the local do-nothings behalf. As far as Abner's comment that I "glided" over the fact they charged for meals never served I did not. I said there was confusion about how many were actually served but they refunded the money anyway. I would at least expect those posting to an education forum to have some reading skills. For your uninformed selfs, caterers tend to bil by the amount of food served. People receiveing the meals tend to equate it to how many people were served. Common sense tells you (most people anyway) that this will inevitably lead to confusion. However, you have no way of knowing that since I bet your life experience derives from the time spent posting to forums. How about this, instead of telling us what education you have, any idiot can reack up degrees to no useful purpose, let us know what you have done for your fellow man. In the real world actions are what counts. Why don't you two participate in a mutual email forum and leave the adults to talk big people talk. Your "Te He's" are childish and ill-informed and I for one am a little sick of them. Spare us.......
Re: People who have been on this board... (1) I have two MBA degrees. I have not yet chosen to pursue my doctorate in business, as that would be a "back burner" thing, where pursuit of the master's and doctorate in history will take priority. (2) So you have enough history to declare a minor and have read history books all your life. I have a history major and have read history books all my life. (3) Well, I suppose that never having been outside the US and Canada makes me a lesser person than you. I have been to the historic homes of Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Simpson Grant, Rutherford Birchard Hayes, James Abram Garfield, Benjamin Harrison, William McKinley, William Howard Taft, and Warren Gamaliel Harding, as well as the battlefields of Chickamauga/Chattanooga and Stones River, the Johnson's Island Prison Camp, and the site of the Pig War (in which Capt. Pickett nearly provoked a war with the Brits in 1858/9). (4) And who, praytell, is making vacuous posts here? (5) Titles below the name are hardly indicative of weak self-esteem; rather, they indicate to the reader what one has knowledge of and is qualified to speak of. Weak self-esteem is a characteristic of those who would tear down others' titles. (6) So being an old man qualifies you to arrogantly take away Abner's any my First Amendment rights to free speech? (7) And any of this says that you know more about history than I do? (8) Wait a minute! I have never attacked Rich or Union. And you, sir, most certainly are not Dr. Rich Douglas. So don't flatter yourself. And, by the way, watch the ad hominem.
Re: People who have been on this board... DTECHBA: You are sad individual, living through the past and attacking others. What do you know about me? Nothing! I will not bother to play your silly little pathetic game. So you have travelled, so what. So have I, to several Central American and European countries. I also speak two languages, and I am fairly decent in Italian and a rare language called Valencian. I hold Black Belt rankings in three systems. I have an A.A. degree and will be receiving my Bachelors soon. I have studied at UCLA, University of Iowa and UCI. My studies are wide ranging and varied. Your efforts to paint me as a little childish boy are ridiculous. I will not engage in your Ad Hominem attacks. Like I said, before, you will not tell anybody in this forum what they can and cannot say. Your silly little admonitions certainly do not bother me in the least. Good day! Abner
Wow, books again, what have you done????? No, you being you is what qualifies me to tell you to learn something before you comment. Read your posts, they're laughingly uninformed. You two talk about crap you know nothing about. Who gives didly if you read books I have probably read them all as well and most of them are in my library. Whats more, I have visited all of those places in the USA some more than once. And yes, reading books loses a lot without the perspective of feet on the ground. Watching the Longest Day takes on new perspective when you stand on the waters edge with someone who ran through the surf on D-Day. A book is a book. You two have nothing to come back with so you plead righteousness all of a sudden. Glad to see you got religion when it fitted the moment. You two dwell on your mutual admiration society. I would bet by meeting each other you have increased your mutual fan base 100%. Get some adult experiences boys and then come out and talk. Until then, let the adults talk.....
Re: Wow, books again, what have you done????? It is quite obvious there is no possibility of a sane discussion with you. You accuse us of being boys, but it was you who resorted to using words like pin heads and idiots. You seem to think that age equals wisdom. In your case, it clearly does not. A very wise man once told me "Wisdom does not come with age, I know plenty of old fools". So no, you are in position to give anybody advice. I will give you some advice though, calm down before you give yourself a heart attack. I am going to end this discussion know, it is clear this will merely degrade into a circular argument. I have no interest in wasting my time on the likes of you. I am sure you will respond by hurling more insults and questioning peoples intelligence. someone like you has been a life long bully. The thing about me, I love to knock down bullies. Bullies are merely cowards at heart. Take care, Feel free to fire back, I will not be responding because insults from you mean absolutely nothing to me. Let me assure you I will never hesitate to voice my opinion. Abner
Re: Wow, books again, what have you done????? Too bad DTechBA will only ever have one member in his own mutual admiration society ... DTechBA himself!
