State of the Union

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  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Am bogged down in studies but wanted to post regarding the President's State of the Union address.

    In a nutshell, the speech was progressive, humane, and compassionate.

    He will continue to be called a "right winger," however, in spite of the progressive ideas he proposed: more business opportunities for minorities, more AIDS funding for black males, health care centers in every poor county in America, increased funding for DNA testing for those on death row, especially since blacks are disproportionately represented, etc.

    I cannot remember the last time I heard a State of the Union speech address minority issues so ardently.
     
  2. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Yes, Sir Karl is such a eloquent writer.

    :rolleyes:
     
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Point Number One: If you listened to the news today, you would have heard Bush edited the speech numerous times

    Point Number Two: Regardless of the author, the method of delivery is just as if not more important as it embodies either listlessness and apathy or passion and conviction

    Point Number Three: Every President has speech writers

    Point Number Four: If this is all you can say about the speech... :rolleyes:
     
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    It was late and I was tired. I see I left out Point Number Five: Speech writers do not make Presidential policy, the speeches they construct reflect the policies of the President.
     
  5. PETEUSA1

    PETEUSA1 New Member

    As with most political speeches, lots of bs and no substance.
     
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Please tell me what's not substantive about these goals.
     
  7. qvatlanta

    qvatlanta New Member

    How much money did he promise last time to fight AIDS in Africa?

    How much of that money actually got delivered?

    Why should we trust Bush when he promises more funding on ANYTHING, given the massive budget deficit we're facing and Iraq expenditures?
     
  8. PETEUSA1

    PETEUSA1 New Member

    Exactly, Jimmy, lots of bs (goals), no substance (how)
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Perhaps you should do some research into how funds are appropriated. A State of the Union speech lays out the Presidents agenda. It's up to the Congress to provide the funding for the proposals. Government 101!

    As far as the 15 billion to fight AIDS in Africa, why don't you answer your own question with some research?
     
  10. qvatlanta

    qvatlanta New Member

    I guess we'd have to blame the Republican-dominated Congress then.
     
  11. PETEUSA1

    PETEUSA1 New Member

    My first concern is the United States, our own infrastructure,

    I don`t give a damn about africa or anywhere else while our own needs aren`t met.

    Period.
     
  12. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member


    Don't sweat it, Jimmy. These are just Bush bashers doing what they do best. You cannot force illogical thinkers to understand reason. Even if Bush was able to put an end to all earthquakes and hurricanes, these people would still bash him for still allowing people to die by lighting strikes and flash floods.
     
  13. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Transcript of Bush's real State of the Union address:

    http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2005/020205.asp


    I guess I wasn't the only one who didn't really want to hear any more lies from the sleaze ball we call Mr. President. His SOTU address was one of the lowest rated in 10 years.

    For those of you who want to find out who really controls the government under the Bush administration, check out "Bush's Brain". If you have Comcast On-demand, you can see it for free. 90% of the people they interviewed were die-hard Republicans. The consensus - Karl Rove, the king of sleaze (the man who makes John Hinckley look like the Pope) created Bush. Before Sir Karl, Bush was a rich country bumpkin from Texas. If you don't believe it, look at Bush's failed campaign for Congress verses his 180 degree turnaround in his campaign for Governor.

    I thought Slick Willie and Tricky Dick were sleezeballs, but GW takes the cake. To top it off, GW uses his religion not for spiritual strength, but purely for political gain.

    I guess we all have to endure another 4 years of this liar in office. It is too bad that 1300 brave souls have had to pay for his lies and deceit.

    Just my two - I am sure I will get some sort of nonsensical reply...
     
  14. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Well, if you love this deceitful man so much, then it is your obligation to join up and fight HIS war. And don't do some wimpy aviator or intelligence job, get on the front line with the Marines.

    Everytime I see GW address the military it makes me sick. As a former Navy PO, I know that Bush sleeze out of his duty just as Slick Willie and most of the Republican leadership did when they were called to action.
     
  15. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    It was a typical uninspiring speech. Yes, everyone has speech writers. Problem with Bush is that he is 100% staged by a Karl Rove. With Sir Karl, Bush would continue to fall over his words and have no real agenda.
     
  16. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    oops -- typo

    I meant to say "without Karl" not "with Karl"
     
  17. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Wow M.E.

    You seem very cynical and burnt out. The majority of the U.S. voted for President Bush. He is the President of our country. I would hope you would be big enough to give him the repect due any one holding the office and the respect you would want if your candidate had won.

    The more polarized we become as a country the further we get away from what has made this country great. I would hope you could offer constructive criticism and not just angry quips and hateful mud-slinging.
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The majority of the U.S. voted for President Bush.

    A slim majority of those who voted voted for Bush. That's not the same thing. I don't think that a true majority ever supports any of these jokers, and rightly so.

    He is the President of our country. I would hope you would be big enough to give him the repect due any one holding the office and the respect you would want if your candidate had won. The more polarized we become as a country the further we get away from what has made this country great. I would hope you could offer constructive criticism and not just angry quips and hateful mud-slinging.

    Does that mean you believe that consensus is the most important part of what has made this country great? I'm trying to think of an era in which there really was broad consensus about in what direction America should go. Only WWII comes to mind.

    The problem is that the liberal and conservative ideas of in what direction American civilization should be moving are completely different, and the two sides are relatively evenly matched in support. With stakes that high, it shouldn't be surprising that there's such polarization.

    -=Steve=-
     
  19. qvatlanta

    qvatlanta New Member

    Illogical?

    Bush: I promise to eliminate all earthquakes and hurricanes!
    Cynic: Yeah, right.
    Bush Supporter: You are illogical not to believe Bush!
    ....
    Cynic: Hey, I noticed we still have earthquakes and hurricanes.
    Bush Supporter: You are illogical to hold Bush accountable for eliminating earthquakes and hurricanes!
     
  20. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Best analogy yet for the Bush Administration. Thanks for the great post!
     

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