Boxer Baby

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by BLD, Jan 7, 2005.

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  1. BLD

    BLD New Member

    What a bunch of whiners! Get over it Dems! You lost! And you wonder why no one takes you seriously? Look at your lousy cry-baby leaders.

    Boxer Baby
     
  2. First of all, let me say that I both agree with you and strongly disagree with you.

    1. I agree that this action on Barbara Boxer's part is childish and unwarranted, although if it draws attention to the need to improve the accessibility to vote for ALL Americans, then it is OK on those grounds, and those grounds alone.

    2. "No one takes you seriously"? Please! The vote was almost 50/50, so I think that an enormous part of our voting population takes Democrats VERY seriously indeed. What would your preference be? A one-party state run by your Republican corporate power brokers? Or maybe a two-party state with Republicans on the one hand and some crazy-ass party run by Jerry Falwell and the Religious Whacko Right on the other? Is that where you are heading with that statement?

    Not sure where that would leave the majority of Americans, but I await your response....

    Please clarify.
    - Carl
     
  3. BLD

    BLD New Member

    Carl,
    No, I don't want to do away with the two party system. In fact, I want it to stay just the way it is! The more the Dems speak, the better the Republicans look. Keep it comin'

    BLD
     
  4. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    BLD: Sort of like when you gratuitously said I was a lousy Christian. Some folks gotta vent, I guess. I hope the Dems on this board (of whom I am surely not one) respond to you with more maturity than your post displayed. Carl shows it's possible. I expected no less from Carl, btw.
     
  5. BLD

    BLD New Member

    janko,
    I never said you were a lousy Christian. If I remember correctly, I said that your constant use of vulgarities detracted from your Christian witness.

    BLD
     
  6. Khan

    Khan New Member

    Yeah! Who needs a fair election. It's just a cornerstone of democracy and stuff.
     
  7. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    No, BLD, you called me a lousy Christian because I didn't reflect your party line on some political matter.

    As Nell Gwyn once put it to a mob of (anti-Roman Catholic) bigots, "Be still, good people! I am the protestant whore."* She was a great lady.

    La dracu.


    *Capitalization reflects 17th century English usage.
     
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  8. Hey BLD:

    Indeed, Uncle Janko sometimes uses language that is a bit on the salty side coming from a man o' the cloth. But if our Creator is keeping score based on how many times we think or say the "f" word versus our intentions and actions in this world, then I'll take my chances with the devil...

    Christian witness..... at the risk of this seeming like a mutual love-fest, there is none better than Janko my friend.

    - Carl
     
  9. BLD

    BLD New Member

    Coming from an "expert" like you, I'll just have to take your word for it.
     
  10. Well, for your information, my "expertise" consists of sitting through day-long Wisconsin Lutheran style church education for the better part of my formative years each and every Saturday and Sunday.

    So I think I know a bit more than you might think I know.... However, in the case of fundamentalists and the more intolerant strains of Christianity fueled by Calvinist notions of pre-destination, I also know that the tiger does not change its stripes....

    That being said, peace unto you for your opinions. I'd still share a beer with you, unless that's against your religion too?

    LOL!
    - Carl
     
  11. BLD

    BLD New Member

    Do you have any O'Doul's?
     
  12. DTechBA

    DTechBA New Member

    Funny

    I remember seeing pictures of white middle class voters waiting in line as well. However, I don't hear Boxer complaining about them.

    What people who have never worked a polling place don't understand is that it is rarely a lack of machines which causes the problems. It is almost always discrepencies in the persons voting registration which causes the problems. It takes 10 times longer to clear the person to vote thus slowing down the lines. Most people vote only every 4 years or so and in some communities people have moved 2 or 3 times since the last time they voted. People need to exercise a little personal responsibility and make sure their registration is up to date instead of waiting until election day. In Illinois you can change your registration when you renew your drivers license or license plates. Despite that, come election day someone will drive to the polling place in a car (which has been registered twice since they moved) and then start hollering at the little old lady election judge because their registration address is screwed up.

    That is one of the problems today, instead of taking responsibility for ones actions people expect someone else to take care of them and when it goes wrong it SOMEBODY ELSES fault.....
     
  13. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Boxer told the Senate yesterday that some people had to get out of line at a polling place and go home because their legs hurt. This constitutes "voter disenfranchisement." I suppose that if Boxer had her way we would go on a hunt across Ohio to find every single person who, for one reason or another, did not vote and try to get their vote counted. Were you tired, your legs hurt, you had to pick up your children from school? Did you have an appointment at the local Little Saigon Nail Palace that you just couldn't miss? Did you see a cop car drive by a polling place and become frightened? Contact Barbara Boxer! Your vote should have counted!

    In the meantime, people in Afghanistan stood in line for over 18 hours to get a chance to vote. Do you think their legs might have hurt also?

    Barbara Boxer and her dog-washer Stephanie Tubbs Whatever have embarrassed America. Their hatred of George Bush is stronger than any love they have for this country. For two centuries America has been the world's shining example when it comes to giving the people the opportunity to choose their leaders. Every four years, in good times and in bad, in war and in peace, Americans have been able to go to the polls and change the entire leadership of their country without the bloodshed and confusion that usually accompanies changes in political leadership elsewhere. Now, thanks to Democrats, we have a new standard. No longer will the world look up to the American electoral process. Now, thanks to the likes of Al Gore and Barbara Boxer, the elections will merely be the opening salvos, the precursors to weeks or months of legal wrangling and obvious grandstanding to follow.
     
  14. BinkWile

    BinkWile New Member

    What does Al Gore have to do with all of this? He lost Florida by 500 votes. If I were him, I would have wanted a recount as well. I also saw the Florida election debacle as a call for election reform, which did not happen. In the case of Gore, the margin was so close, that I could understand why a recount was needed, and that the American people deserved to know who the real winner was. I think it could only legitimize the process.

    Now in this case, you have Senator Boxer, who is an obvious sore loser. The margin in Ohio was too large for Kerry to have overcome, and I find it difficult to think that 118,000 voters went home because they were tired, and if they did, well I wasn't there, but my first reaction is to say shame on them.
     
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    The constant use of vulgarities/profanity detracts from anyone's Christian witness.
     
  16. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    And the prostitution of religious faith to partisan ends does what, exactly?

    Holy excrement! Having been the target of sexual innuendo from a religious-righter in this forum--who then whined like a brat when I replied with sustained satire--as well as earlier savage stuff from a secular Doppelgaenger of his on the corrosive left--I don't notice that any of the church ladies said one nice clean word in my defense. So defamation is OK but a durrty word is not.

    Go worship the Jacob Frank of Pennsylvania Avenue. Unless he says a bad word.

    I'm sure the real Messiah won't mind too much.:eek:
     
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    You and I have been DL Carpathian comrades for some time, Janko. My post was not a personal stab, but rather a general observation. To answer your question, however, neither "defamation or durrty words" compliment one's Christian witness. ;)
     
  18. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Thank you, Vladica.
     
  19. Kit

    Kit New Member

    Oh come now. You don't think Jesus cussed while overturning the tables of the money changers in the temple? He was mighty angry at the time, probably did cuss or at least spew forth a few choice words.

    Kit
     
  20. Orson

    Orson New Member

    I have to second BLD's complaint about Democratic whiners. I mean, Randi Roads (sp?) and Ed Schultz on Air America endorsedthese very tactics as "most reasonable" when the more sensible course would be soul searching.

    Not only is what Carl diminishingly claims to be a "nearly 50/50" election really the first presidential one over 50% since 1988, Bush's share is the largest Democratic percentage since 1964!

    A subsequent Cleveland Plain-Dealer study confirmed that every precinct got in Cleveland's Coyahoga (sp?) county got one machine for every 117 registered voters, wait times were actually longer in whiter suburban areas than in minority areas - contradicting what Kerry and Boxer whined about.
     

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