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    She wants to teach in an American School or at least have the option.

    I am asking for a friend. She wants to know if she can teach with a PHD from a foreign school opposed to a PHD from an American school. She is an American teaching overseas, She has a masters in TEFL.
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    Yes, she can...it is up to the institution that she works for. I see a Professor at John Hopkins University holds a Ph.D from Germany.
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    I should start out by saying I have no experience with this issue. I was just thinking that since universities like to foster diversity, a quality degree from a foreign country might increase her chances, especially in the field of Education . My Aunt is a 2nd grade teacher and they actually give bonuses/raises to teachers who have traveled outside the U.S because of the educational/cultural benefits.

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    University administrators like to talk about diversity, but that's not quite the same thing. Anyway, I've taught or worked for five U.S. universities, and I don't think this would have been an advantage at any. Not a dealbreaker either, but not an advantage.
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    In theory, a PhD from a legitimate foreign school is perfectly acceptable in the US.

    But in practice, the academic job market in the US is generally competitive (often very competitive). Any academic job opening is likely to attract lots of candidates from well known American schools. In this situation, you will probably be at a disadvantage if your degree is from a foreign school that nobody on the hiring committee is familiar with.

    Of course, if the foreign school has a great reputation in your field, then it could be a plus. For example, if you want to teach British history with a degree from Oxford, or Japanese with a degree from the University of Tokyo, then the foreign degree could be an asset. But the reality is that most foreign schools don't have strong reputations in the US.
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    Hard to believe someone with a MA TEFL can't figure that out - every heard of an equivalency evaluation of a degree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonlevy View Post
    Hard to believe someone with a MA TEFL can't figure that out - every heard of an equivalency evaluation of a degree?
    I think this is a fair question. A credential evaluator such as WES would put all the foreign degrees in one basket but in practice is not the same a PhD earned in Africa than a PhD earned in Germany.

    It has been my experience that American employers would prefer people graduated from American schools seconded by people graduated from Canadian, British or Australia Schools. You see some full time faculty in the US graduated from European schools but not so common I would say.

    Acceptability of foreign degrees in the US would be a good subject of research but my take is that acceptability will be higher for Canadian, British and Australian schools in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFValve View Post
    Acceptability of foreign degrees in the US would be a good subject of research but my take is that acceptability will be higher for Canadian, British and Australian schools in general.
    I for one would be very grateful if someone did this sort of useful research. If sufficiently comprehensive in scope, it might even make an acceptable dissertation project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    I for one would be very grateful if someone did this sort of useful research. If sufficiently comprehensive in scope, it might even make an acceptable dissertation project.
    I would expect it to be lower in academia than in Industry. The industry if full of people with degrees from India, China, Africa,etc so I would expect the foreign degree to be acceptable for most industry positions.
    In Academia, we don't see as many people with terminal foreign degrees from Africa, Asia or Latin America.
    The WES equivalency report is not a gold standard, WES can say that a PhD from a Nicaraguan school is equivalent to a RA American PhD but this doesn't mean that the person holding this degree will be hired for a tenure track position.

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    Steve: I for one would be very grateful if someone did this sort of useful research.

    John: I did it, informally, in the late 90's, when Heriot-Watt University, Scotland, for which we did marketing for their online MBA , was ready to introduce a largely online PhD. Several of us perused the faculty lists of about 50 major US universities, looking for people with non-US degrees. Sorry that I don't have the results at hand, but they were very encouraging. Quite a large number with doctorates from universities in western Europe, Australia, Israel, South Africa, and a smattering from other places: West Indies, Peru, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. What I don't know is if the country is taken into account in hiring, and if so, how much. Two finalists for a US job with comparable PhD work, one at the University of Iowa, one at the University of Southampton. In 100 such situations, is it 50-50 or 97-3 or what? I think it is knowable, but not known.

    --John Bear, who had lunch this very day with a Berkeley faculty member
    whose undergraduate degrees are from Germany, his PhD from University
    of British Columbia, who was hired in large part (he says) because of papers
    he has published in his field (nanotechnology).

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    Mahmood Iqbal: In Canada You Can Get a PhD, But Maybe Not a Job
    In general, PhDs do fine in the USA. Maybe that why the USA is the biggest and most properous economy/country in the world. You can make it there regardless of where you gained the knowledge. After all, it is a knowledge based economy where profit is king.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveFoerster View Post
    I for one would be very grateful if someone did this sort of useful research. If sufficiently comprehensive in scope, it might even make an acceptable dissertation project.
    Brain drain of African doctors has saved Canada $400-million - The Globe and Mail
    The British Medical Journal did a comprehensive research of the acceptibility of African trained doctorate. There is a great demand for the highly educated.

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