Phoenix Problem

Discussion in 'Online & DL Teaching' started by AdamJLaw, Mar 27, 2011.

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  1. AdamJLaw

    AdamJLaw New Member

    Hi,

    I was started in the hiring process at Phoenix a while ago. I did the phone interview and passed. I did the one month training and passed. I was asked to turn in my HR paperwork and have been waiting for them to get back to me about a mentor. I got a nicely worded email over the weekend that said,

    "We regret to inform you that the university has made the decision to discontinue the selection process with you at this time, and we will not be extending an invitation to move forward into the mentorship phase."

    Has this every happened to you before? I teach at other schools and have never had an issue? What do you think?
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Supply and demand?
     
  3. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    That would be my guess. UoP changed their compensation structure for enrollment reps this past year. Perhaps this has resulted in a drop in enrollments.
     
  4. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    There has been a drop in enrollments, but I would highly doubt it has anything to do with how much they pay the "sales" staff.

    It could be an issue with your mentorship. When I was a faculty mentor I had candidates who I recommended "pass" but were not selected based on the Mentorship Team's evaluation. I also had candidates who I indicated should "fail" and was overruled in the other direction. This is one of the major reasons I chose to discontinue serving as a Mentor.

    Have you seen your final mentorship evaluation? Once that is completed by the mentor you will get something from the mentorship team. How were your student evaluations? Just thinking out loud here.

    There has been a significant drop in enrollment, so that could be a factor. Don't worry about it too much, there are better places out there. I have dropped to just teaching there just enough to keep on the roster (once a year), but no more.

    Maybe your HR paperwork uncovered the fact that you are a terrorist? :)
     
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  5. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    I worked at UOP (briefly in enrollment and then in accounting/financial aid), and, IMO, it has everything to do with how much they pay the sales staff. Previously, you could get up to a 20% raise every six months if you enrolled a large number of students (and met some other secondary goals). Counselors would beg, borrow, and steal to make sure they hit their numbers to try to reach those goals. Also, fear of termination motivated people to recruit "less than qualified" candidates. Now (per a friend I have who is still in management at UOP), counselors can only get a 4% raise per year.
     
  6. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    Good to know, thanks. I still think that a drop in enrollment is the result of other factors as well. Perhaps the negative attention for-profits are getting in the news lately? The number of times you see UOP slammed on TV and in the media? The revolving-faculty door? Stupid commercials? Does it really matter in the context of the OP's problem?

    I have taught courses in numerous programs at UOP - the course offers are still coming at the same rate. The class sizes are also getting bigger and the number of students who probably should not be in college is also increasing.
     
  7. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    I wouldn't dispute this. I think they are all factors.
     
  8. AdamJLaw

    AdamJLaw New Member

    Mentorship


    I didn't even get to the mentorship yet. I passed my training two weeks ago and just filled out all my HR paperwork. I mailed it in a few days ago. I was just waiting for all the paperwork to be finished to start the mentorship.

    Adam
     
  9. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    My mistake. I had one other thought once I saw your sig. line - the UOP is LOADED with CJ faculty at the moment. You didn't perhaps get hired for CJ did you? That may explain the situation if you did.
     
  10. AdamJLaw

    AdamJLaw New Member

    I was hired as a CJ instructor. But why would they do that? Perhaps their projections didn't pan out?
     
  11. truckie270

    truckie270 New Member

    No idea - I know it sucks. They are not the only ones that have been known to hire more faculty than they need. I was a mentor until last year and about 1/2 of my "mentees" were CJ and the other 1/2 were ECON.
     

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