Double dipping on graduate credit to teach multiple topics

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  1. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I am looking at my graduate credits and it seems as though some can fit into two categories. For example, MGT5005 - Management Finance and Control can be a management class and/or a finance class when looking at it from the prospective of amassing 18 graduate credits to teach a subject.

    First question: How common is it to have credits that fit into two categories or is that never really looked at? I have two “overlap” classes:
    HCA5012 - Heath Care Financial Management - finance/healthcare
    MGT5005 - Management Finance and Control - management / finance

    Now I am looking at it and realize I have 15 credits in healthcare and could take HCA5018 Health Care Marketing to get 18 grad credit in Healthcare (I already have: PHA 5270 - Law, Healthcare, and Patient Safety; PHA 5272 – Risk Management & Liability; PHA 5271 - Introduction to Health Care Risk Management, Quality Improvement & Compliance; PUB5006 - Public Health Administration; HCA5012 - Heath Care Financial Management)

    Here is the second part of the question: could HCA5018 Health Care Marketing also count as a "marketing" class? My goal is to make the most of the credits and ultimately have 18 credits in Business Management (currently have 30), Information Management (currently have 20), Healthcare (currently have 15), Finance (currently have 10), and Marketing (currently have 4). With a few well places classes I could cover everything pretty well and be an “adjunct dream” for any school.

    Funny thing is that I am a manager of people and equipment in the healthcare field and I am part of the service marketing group responsible for $300M in service contracts (up 26% in 3 years). I started as a field employee installing and repairing hi-end medical equipment and computer networks used to capture images of surgical procedures and customized the software for dictation. I work with the finance team to look at different pricing and profitability models for contracts so it is a win-win situation. I say this because I want to be clear that I also have real world experience in all of these areas (yet a bit weak in finance) and not just looking to collect credits and not have a clue about the subject when it comes to the real world.
     
  2. scaredrain

    scaredrain Member

    It depends on the university and who is reviewing resumes. I know some that are picky and if they are looking for a marketing instructor then the 18 semester credit hours better have the marketing prefix or it does not count. Some are more lenient than others and look at your background, work experience, and education. Then there are some who despite advertising for 18 semester credit hours, will only hire people who have an actual degree in the subject and will bypass those who meet the 18 semester credit hour requirement.

    For example, at one of the universities where I am an adjunct, they looked at my background, work experience, and education and approved me to teach almost any IT course they have,with the exception of computer engineering courses. While another university, told me that despite my extensive IT background and 11 years of experience, my degree was not a Masters in Information Systems or a Masters of Computer Science, so I could not teach any CIS or ITS courses, but I was approved to teach educational technology or instructional technology courses.
     
  3. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator


    Thanks, I guess "qualification is in the eye of the beholder"?
     
  4. scaredrain

    scaredrain Member

    Hey there I sent you a pm.
     
  5. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Thanks- I did get it.
     
  6. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    Scaredrain is correct that different schools (and sometimes departments within schools) will look at this differently. Our accrediting body (SACS) considers someone academically qualified (for undergrad teaching) if he or she has either:

    1. Doctorate/terminal degree in the teaching discipline
    2. Masters in the teaching discipline
    3. Master degree with a concentration (18 graduate semester hours) in the teaching discipline

    These are in order of preference.

    Now, what is a "teaching discipline"? That is where you find the variation. SACS also allows for people with significant experience in the subject to teach, but it is up to the college or university to document the instructor's qualifications to the satisfaction of the accrediting body. As you can imagine, there is a certain amount of subjectivity involved.

    Now, as far as your original question: Yes "double dipping of grad credit to teach multiple subjects" is allowed. For example, I would classify your HCA5012 course as units toward teaching either in finance or health care management.
     

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