Question for UPhoenix, Axia instructors

Discussion in 'Online & DL Teaching' started by mbaonline, Nov 22, 2008.

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  1. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    I know that the undergrad UoPx classes are 5 weeks and I understand the pay structure. However, how many students are in each class? Is it the same or different for other Apollo Group schools (Axia, WIU)?
     
  2. bamafan

    bamafan New Member

    I teach for Axia, however their classes are 9 weeks in length. I am currently teaching two sections of a course. One section has 18 students, the other has 15.
     
  3. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    Thanks Bamafan.

    P.S. I grew up in Huntsville.
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I've never had more than 20 students, but the average has been 14-16 or so. I've had some classes with a LOT less, but it depends on the time of year, popularity of the course, etc.

    You get paid the same regardless, but I actually prefer the larger classes. Grading obviously takes longer, but more students provide a much more dynamic and interesting experience, IMO.
     
  5. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member


    Thanks Bruce! Anyone else?
     
  6. JimLane

    JimLane New Member

    When I first taught for UOP, the range (OTG) was 12-16. There were some larger and more thana few were smaller. Now it is at least 26 before they break the class into sections. I taught a couple of online classes WAY back, but they were relatively small, but required about 3X the work as an on-ground class.

    BTW, does UOP still use that archaic, threaded text messages as the total online class experience?


    j.
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Yes and no; mandatory use of Outlook Express is gone (although you can still use it as a backup), but UoP has their own online classroom platform. It took some getting used to, but it's about 1000X better than what was used before. The new online gradebook tracks participation for you, which was the biggest pain in the ass about teaching for UoP, IMO.
     
  8. JimLane

    JimLane New Member

    I knew Outlook was gone, but understand, erroneously or not, that the system in place is STILL threaded text messages and not one of the higher tech platforms such as D2L, Blackboard, WebCT or Angel.

    If my understanding is correct, the technology is still at a grade-school level and what can be done with it is at that level.

    Having an online grading system is great, but that is not something that the student gets to utilize in their coursework except for receiving feedback.

    I believe that the only viable advantage that UOP offers Online is asynchronicity (others offer that) AND they offer more technologically - consequently UOP is well behind other players in the market from a technology viewpoint.

    Sorta like holding class in a playground sandbox versus a multimedia classroom.


    j.
     
  9. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    That's true, although I used to teach for a school that used Blackboard, and I have to say I prefer the current UoP system. Maybe it's just what I'm used to.

    They (UoP) are actually in the process of designing a new online class platform; I believe the current OLS was just a bookmark until the new system is ready for launch.

    I think the problem is that UoP is a victim of its own success as well as being one of the DL pioneers; a new classroom platform is going to require training for something like 8,000 faculty members, which obviously is not an overnight thing.
     
  10. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I went through a portion of the teacher training and I hated the discussion application they used. That was part of why I did not do well. I hated the fact that the discussion threads moved from top to bottom. By the time I figued out what the heck was going on it was too late.
     
  11. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    Well, if I get that far, I'll keep that in mind and remember it. Thanks Randell.
     
  12. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Hmmm.....I don't know what to make of that? :confused:

    In threaded discussions, up means old, and down means new. ;)
     
  13. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    If this is your at stab at comedy, don't give up your day job! :eek: In a school I teach for, the discussions are as follows:
    Week 1 - Assignment 1
    Week 1 - Assignment 2
    Week 1 - Assignment 3

    They do not move as they are in date order of when they are due (1 before 2 and so on). That was in my mind so when they moved, my mind freaked out and shut down ;).
     
  14. JimLane

    JimLane New Member

    You missed the point. In a threaded discussion, the oprigin message is at the top. Each reply to it comes below with the first reply being immediately below and a reply to the reply is below that.

    Q
    A1
    A1a
    A2
    A2a
    A2b
    A2b1

    And so on. Consequently those closest to the top are oldest and those below (at the same hierarchy) are newer.

    NOTE: all my formatting disappeared!!!


    j.
     
  15. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week; try the veal and tip your waitress. :p
     

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