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    good piece of information there.

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    Hi - this is my first post here. I regularly am on degreeforum, but now that I'm about to get my BS, I am interested in all of the great info on graduate degrees that you've got here and will likely be popping up every now and again.

    I read through this entire thread and found it intriguing, and I have thought about teaching business classes in the future, but I could use a little clarification.

    The first thing that I find a little bit confusing is that a doctorate is preferred, however an online doctorate is generally viewed as less valuable. However, in order for someone to be a successful executive in the business world, they probably have not spent most of their life in the classroom. I would think that most execs graduate from business school, start working, obtain an MBA mid-career and work at least 50 hours a week.

    In this scenario, our hypothetical executive would be an excellent teacher because she (or he ) would have real-world business experience and could not only teach the subject at hand, but give her students pearls of wisdom gathered during a successful career in the real world.

    So, how does this person get a doctorate? If she has to spend most of her free time working in order to keep moving up the corporate ladder, and travels frequently for business, an online degree would be the only possible solution unless she were to quit her job or accept a position with less responsibility, which would seem to negatively impact the advice she could give her future students.

    Sorry,this is long and I'm not even sure I'm making sense. I guess the hypothetical executive is where I see myself in a few years. I will be doing an online MBA and was hoping that because I'm successful in the business world that an MBA plus my career would position me for some future part-time teaching position, but now I'm beginning to doubt that. I hadn't really ever thought about a DBA or PhD, but if I do, I can't imagine a program other than online.

    So.. are business programs as strict about their hiring or will a decent career in the field make up for a lack of a DBA/PhD? Would love to hear your opinions and I've found all of the info you've already provided on this thread incredibly interesting.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by burbuja0512 View Post
    Hi - this is my first post here. I regularly am on degreeforum, but now that I'm about to get my BS, I am interested in all of the great info on graduate degrees that you've got here and will likely be popping up every now and again.

    I read through this entire thread and found it intriguing, and I have thought about teaching business classes in the future, but I could use a little clarification.

    The first thing that I find a little bit confusing is that a doctorate is preferred, however an online doctorate is generally viewed as less valuable. However, in order for someone to be a successful executive in the business world, they probably have not spent most of their life in the classroom. I would think that most execs graduate from business school, start working, obtain an MBA mid-career and work at least 50 hours a week.

    In this scenario, our hypothetical executive would be an excellent teacher because she (or he ) would have real-world business experience and could not only teach the subject at hand, but give her students pearls of wisdom gathered during a successful career in the real world.

    So, how does this person get a doctorate? If she has to spend most of her free time working in order to keep moving up the corporate ladder, and travels frequently for business, an online degree would be the only possible solution unless she were to quit her job or accept a position with less responsibility, which would seem to negatively impact the advice she could give her future students.

    Sorry,this is long and I'm not even sure I'm making sense. I guess the hypothetical executive is where I see myself in a few years. I will be doing an online MBA and was hoping that because I'm successful in the business world that an MBA plus my career would position me for some future part-time teaching position, but now I'm beginning to doubt that. I hadn't really ever thought about a DBA or PhD, but if I do, I can't imagine a program other than online.

    So.. are business programs as strict about their hiring or will a decent career in the field make up for a lack of a DBA/PhD? Would love to hear your opinions and I've found all of the info you've already provided on this thread incredibly interesting.

    Thanks!
    Because top business schools are typically in research university the schools are more concerned about high quality research than they are about classroom instruction. While someone with a wealth of professional experience might make a great instructor, they aren't trained in producing scholarly research which is what schools are most concerned about. This isn't the case with most Liberal Arts Colleges, but liberal arts colleges typically don't have business schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTiger00 View Post
    Because top business schools are typically in research university the schools are more concerned about high quality research than they are about classroom instruction. While someone with a wealth of professional experience might make a great instructor, they aren't trained in producing scholarly research which is what schools are most concerned about. This isn't the case with most Liberal Arts Colleges, but liberal arts colleges typically don't have business schools.
    Great information thank you! It also explains a lot.. I've struggled a little when I hire fresh-out-of college grads. They're full of enthusiasm but generally have two major issues: 1) They've been told that a good education will mean that they get promoted quickly, so usually waiting for that big promotion to come... within days or months and 2) Are horrible at business basics such as writing an effective email, networking , and professional etiquette. I've actually stopped hiring recent grads for entry level positions because they seem so unprepared for the work world.

    My thought had been "Oh maybe I could eventually teach part time and help these poor kids become a little bit more prepared." It sounds like my ideas, though well-intentioned, may not really be appreciated by a traditional business school.

    Any other ideas as far as teaching business part-time in the future? Keep in mind that it's ok if this isn't a good choice for me. It's not my life-long dream, just an idea I've had, and if I have to rule it out, that's not a problem.

    Thanks!

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    Thumbs up Doctorate Candidate seeking insight on online adjunct positions

    I have been reading through this particular thread the past two days and it does provide a lot of great information which I greatly appreciate to all that have given it. This is the first place I have actually located everything in a reasonable understanding order for someone who is entering the academia area.

    I have been an executive all my life and decided to make the change midway while taking my MBA and "give back" because being the 60 hr grind was just a little bit too much for me to deal with [i.e. former Senior UNIX programmer]

    Sure the perks were great but you know, I can do without the egos and I can can deal without team mates that don't know the meaning of leadership when I have done my very best to guide and mentor them into success.

    Anyway, after I left and started to teach on the side by providing things like nightly HTML classes and financial business planning, it gave me a feeling of accomplishment -- In essence, that is where my mind started to open up and see the new opportunity. As I continued my education onto my Doctorate degree (currently a senior), I became more determined to move forward with this idea because I knew it was the right path for me to take on this scholar journey.

    So here I am now asking for help on the best way to enter the world of adjunct teaching before I have the Dr. in front of my name. I have spoken to my Alma Matter and received a wonderful response. Because of that, I am going to move forward and send out all transcripts and move forward with the application process.

    What I am unsure of at this time is since this is a new area I am entering, what is the easiest way of doing it for someone who does not know the ropes? I currently have a Bachelor of Science in Management Information Systems ; an MBA in Finance and Economy; and attending my senior year in my Doctorate of Business Administration in Global Leadership with emphasis in Organizational Development.

    I did copy off the list of universities and colleges for online adjunct teaching . I also saved the summary detail another user provided regarding resume, salary detail. Thank you for supplying that detail as they will be helpful. =)

    I look forward to speaking with anyone that can assist me on this matter. Thank you.

    Note, I changed my doctorate major and it has made all the difference as I am more happier for the direction that I am going. My focus now is customized toward Global Leadership with emphasis in Organizational Development.

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    Would the schools in this thread still suffice for good online schools to try. I have an MBA in healthcare Management and would like to teach business and/or health care management online. I don't have an previous teaching experience. Are there any schools that could recommended for accepting entry level teachers or those without experience? That would be very beneficial to know, thanks.
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    Hello, I have an MBA in healthcare management and I would like to teach health care and business online. I would like to know of some schools that are willing to take on some people without previous teaching experience such as myself so that I can start my part time career as an online adjunct. Thanks in advance.
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    I think that reading through this thread will give you 99% of the answer to your question. However, I believe that I'm correct when I say that an MBA is considered to be bare minimum qualification for teaching on the college level. I'd suggest that you start by investigating your local communitiy colleges. Beyond that, you should look at the various online business programs like the University of Phoenix . Don't get discouraged if you don't get hired quickly, most people need to apply several times before they even get an interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icebergisonfire View Post
    Hello, I have an MBA in healthcare management and I would like to teach health care and business online. I would like to know of some schools that are willing to take on some people without previous teaching experience such as myself so that I can start my part time career as an online adjunct. Thanks in advance.
    Getting the first teaching position is always the hardest and I think it's harder now that 4 years ago. My suggestions (probably posted above...they haven't changed) are one or more of the following:

    -You may have to teach in person first to get skills.
    -Try a community college or technical college. Teaching skills are teaching skills but you have to find a way to demonstrate that you know what you're doing. Even teaching a training class at work or for a volunteer position would be good.
    -Walk in and talk to the dean or department head at the local community college, technical college or ITT -type program. Tell them what you want to do.
    -Sometimes people are hired at the last minute when someone else quits unexpectedly. If your name and face come to mind first, you may get a call.
    -Develop a written teaching philosophy and a sample syllabus: I scoured the web for samples when I wrote my first.
    -I'm not sure what the demand/supply equation is for healthcare management , but since not many MBAs have that concentration you may luck out.
    -I think I sent over 100 application letters before landing my first position.
    -Some of the big for-profits churn through instructors and provide training, so that is an option. For some, your Masters must be at least two years old to qualify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbaonline View Post
    Getting the first teaching position is always the hardest and I think it's harder now that 4 years ago. My suggestions (probably posted above...they haven't changed) are one or more of the following:

    -You may have to teach in person first to get skills.

    This has definitely come to mind, I'm hoping that this doesn't come to pass though.
    -Try a community college or technical college. Teaching skills are teaching skills but you have to find a way to demonstrate that you know what you're doing. Even teaching a training class at work or for a volunteer position would be good.
    Surprisingly, there are a few community colleges that have classes online, I am going to apply my trade there as well.
    -Walk in and talk to the dean or department head at the local community college, technical college or ITT -type program. Tell them what you want to do.
    A wonderful idea, something that I think I'll follow up on, thanks!
    -Sometimes people are hired at the last minute when someone else quits unexpectedly. If your name and face come to mind first, you may get a call.
    This happened to me when I did actually have a teaching job for a local community college, the timing could not have been worse, lol
    -Develop a written teaching philosophy and a sample syllabus: I scoured the web for samples when I wrote my first.
    I have the former, but I need to make the latter. Thanks for this suggestion.
    -I'm not sure what the demand/supply equation is for healthcare management , but since not many MBAs have that concentration you may luck out.
    I have 18 business core credits so I'd just teach business courses
    -I think I sent over 100 application letters before landing my first position.
    Long road ahead I see, lol
    -Some of the big for-profits churn through instructors and provide training, so that is an option. For some, your Masters must be at least two years old to qualify.
    I have seen this before as well
    Thank you and Kizmet for your help.
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