Got 404 error message. I was there from beginning to end. What could have been a great site for discussion of alternative forms of education became a poor copy of this site. It started with great promise but when it became clear that anyone, who posted that he had or desired an unaccredited degree, would be attacked, its whole point of existence was gone. Its death took a while but it appears to be no more./
I was there from beginning to end, too. I probably posted there more than anyone. (I never checked.) Dennis: "It started with great promise but when it became clear that anyone, who posted that he had or desired an unaccredited degree, would be attacked, its whole point of existence was gone." Rich: Bull. No one trying to support unaccredited degees was ever "attacked." This kind of hyperbole was central to that board's uselessness. What DID happen, though, is that unsupportable claims about degrees and schools were challenged. I don't remember any of them holding up, either. Century, Kennedy-Western, California Coast, Pacific Western, and all the rest remain unaccredited, unrecognized, and potentially problematic to their graduates. The board died because the people who started it couldn't sell their crap unabated. So they quit. Their silence speaks volumes.
I posted close to the beginning but lost interest for two reasons: 1.) I saw people getting canned from the site quite early which seemed to imply that too much dissent from the board's purpose was not tolerated. 2.) The "same ol d, same old" stuff by those who needed to validate degrees from the "less than wonderfuls." (Dennis, I have to agree with Rich. What you stated is just the opposite as there were considerable postings on the acceptance of unaccredited degrees. The problem was that much of it could not be validated) My vote for the most interesting topic I saw on the site and much of it carried over to degreeinfo (not sure where it started first but I read it first there) were the discussions on Berne and the acceptance of a Berne degree by a US credential verification service. John
I visited for only a small while. There were so many different categories of forums that I couldn't find a thread I was interested in the next time I visited the site. This lead to mild frustration and then total boredom took over because the interesting threads were so few and far between.
I visited a few times but could not find any interesting threads that gave meaningful information and hated the agressive way some members attacked other members.
Agreed. The death of the other site might also be due to personal attacks such as (and I'm paraphrasing here), "get a real doctorate and get back at me," or mockery such as "Dr Dr Dr so-and-so." I wasn't impressed about such acts either. I could be wrong here, but unreplicated findings (quite possibly generated from a bunch of self-reported surveys) were often referenced as "facts." Qualifiers and limitations were never discussed. I could care less why people get unaccredited degrees, as I'm sure that those who enroll in, say, Preston, know exactly what they're getting. But given that many seem to have done fairly well with unaccredited degrees, and that such degrees are "significantly less useful" as claimed by a researcher, one wonders about the generalizability of the research findings in the real world (and not about what is "supposed" to happen) and its ability to accurately predict the utility of unaccredited degrees.
Actually there has to be a distinction between value of unaccredited degrees. I think it is clear that not all employers can distinguish the difference (or choose to distinguish even when they know), there are settings where it matters. These include law,medicine and academia.
