Re-name the Dixie Chicks

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What should the Dixie Chicks now call themselves?

  1. Blixie Chicks

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Dixie Twits

    9 vote(s)
    19.6%
  3. Vichy Chicks

    14 vote(s)
    30.4%
  4. Worthless Bigmouth Bimbos

    18 vote(s)
    39.1%
  5. Other (suggest below)

    5 vote(s)
    10.9%
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  1. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    The Dixie Chicks recently told a London concert audience that they are "ashamed" of President Bush.

    What should these Saddam groupies be re-named?
     
  2. Han

    Han New Member

    I heard about this - what a downer - I am a huge country fan, and though I like their music, I will never buy again.

    Not sure why actors and musicians think they are so eduated to comment - I hope the backlash continues.
     
  3. Wes Grady

    Wes Grady New Member

    Damn right! How dare they open their mouths and give their opinion. Who do they think they are anyway? They disagree with my views, so lets burn their records and smear them whenever possible...

    Talk about childish behavior. I expect that from Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, but I thought the people in this group were more tolerant of divergent opinions.

    Wes
     
  4. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    I second Wes; it's bad enough that so many country music stations in Texas have banned the Dixie Chicks' music (most of which has no political content whatsoever). If we start treating freethinkers like this on a regular basis, we're going to have a hard time keeping a straight face when we call ourselves an open society.


    Cheers,
     
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  5. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    And in case anyone wonders: The actual quote was something to the effect of "I'm ashamed that our President is from Texas."

    Well, I'm ashamed that Trent Lott is from Mississippi. Anyone wanna burn my books? I can use the publicity.


    Cheers,
     
  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    People....it's all in fun. Please point out just one instance where I have suggested that we burn Dixie Chicks records, or that I don't think they have a right to their opinions.

    HINT: You can't. They have the right to say what they want (even though the 1st Amendment doesn't apply in London), and I have the right to make fun of them.

    All in all, I would say that this insignificant little poll is pretty tame compared to, oh...let's say, Alec Baldwin saying on national TV that Rep. Henry Hyde's family should be stoned to death because President Clinton was impeached.


    Bruce
     
  7. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    ...as part of a satirical skit on Conan O'Brien's show. You can read the transcript here:
    http://www.biercephile.com/conan/baldwin.html

    And has political dialogue really sunk to the point where any woman who happens to disagree with President Bush's policies can be labeled--by a Degreeinfo administrator--as a "Saddam groupie" and "worthless bigmouth bimbo"?


    Cheers,
     
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  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I couldn't open the page.

    In any event, I'm not buying the spin. I saw that show the first time it aired, and there was nothing satirical about it. He (Baldwin) sat next to Conan and railed about Hyde & the Republicans, and I can vividly remember him shaking his fists as he yelled about stoning Hyde's family while the crowd roared, and Conan sat there with an embarassed laugh. He wasn't kidding.

    Of course, I'm still waiting for him (Baldwin) to move to France, as he promised he would do if Bush won the election.


    Bruce
     
  9. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    It's a "satirical skit". :rolleyes:


    Bruce
     
  10. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    So I'm assuming the chair falling over, the oxygen mask, and so forth were all symptoms of Baldwin's homicidal rage?
    He's not the brightest bulb on the tree, Bruce, but the Conan thing was obviously a sketch. He was trying to look ridiculous. (A RealAudio version of the skit can be viewed via a link on the site.)


    Cheers,
     
  11. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    In poor taste, but much of what passes for humor these days is--listened to a George Carlin routine lately? I saw him call terrorist mass-murder a form of entertainment. (In his defense, I'm pretty sure this was recorded pre-9/11--but there's still no excuse.)

    But yeah, I'd call Alec Baldwin to task if he posted it here. Not that I'd have to, from the looks of it.


    Cheers,
     
  12. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator



    Do you honestly think that he didn't believe every word he said? With the possible exceptions of Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin is the most sanctimonious of the ultra-left Hollywood celebrities. The man is a mime, he makes his living by speaking other people's words. I'm not impressed.

    Tom, I think of you as I think of Alan Colmes...that is, I disagree with him on just about every policy issue, but I respect the fact that he can & will listen to opposing points of view, and doesn't use the usual liberal tactic of trying to shout out his opposition. I respect someone who can reasonably debate the issues, as long as they can maintain a sense of humor (see above).

    However, I firmly believe that those who oppose war on Iraq are really going to take a pasting in the court of public opinion. IMO, this war will be quick and relatively painless, and the common Iraqi civilians will welcome liberation with open arms. Those who took a stand against the war will be looking for ways to spin it, or just hide and pretend it didn't happen.


    Bruce
     
  13. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    I never said I thought Alec Baldwin was a man of rare intellect, either (though I think he can be a decent actor, given the right script); but let's keep Hanlon's Razor in mind here. Does it seem more likely that Baldwin meant to kill Hyde's family and lapsed into a homicidal rage on a comedy show, or that he was simply making fun of himself and unclear about how it might look to someone not in on the joke?
    (Thanks for the kind words. Actually, I'm a pretty moderate liberal and would suspect we agree more often than our conversations suggest--I emphasize my liberal opinions here because liberals are underrepresented, just as I tend to emphasize my conservative opinions on liberal forums. I made myself very unpopular on a few ultraliberal forums for backing the Afghanistan War. Political consensus tends to scare me, because it usually means folks have stopped asking questions.)
    (Well, okay, "Vichy Chicks" was pretty clever. But you didn't hear it from me.)
    I hope that turns out to be the worst of our worries, and I suspect the vast majority of pro-peace folks are "in agreeance" with me on that. We do have a secretary of state who has literally dedicated his entire career to avoiding another Vietnam (from the Powell Doctrine on), but he seems to have little or no influence over what the administration actually chooses to do. We have a foreign policy team with heads full of Cold War strategy--something that I've applauded since day one, since I think we've learned a lot from the Cold War that can be applied to current conflicts. But I also see an inexplicable and ridiculous zero sum game--invade now and blast half of Iraq to kingdom come (to the tune of 400 cruise missiles per day), or wait indefinitely in hopes that a crazy-as-a-betsybug genocidal dictator will get full of warm fuzzies and decide he doesn't want to kill people anymore. I can't help but think that every intermediary strategy has been excluded from our national dialogue, and that makes me suspicious. I get the strong sense that there must be a third option, and we're overlooking it.

    I've seen this situation compared to Vietnam, and I've seen it compared to Panama. I can't tell which it is from here. That's one of the reasons why I'm still straddling the fence. I'm not pro-war or anti-war; I don't have enough information to make an educated opinion. I can only hope that the Bush administration will do the right thing--but since I'm looking at an administration that inexplicably gave notice to three countries with nuclear capabilities 18 months ago and has been making vague rumblings in the general direction of World War III, I think my general suspicions about this war are well-founded. I have no doubts that the Bush team is militarily competent; I just hope all those years of trading human strategic interests during the Cold War haven't eroded their humanity.

    I hope they know what they're doing.


    Cheers,
     
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  14. DCross

    DCross New Member

    As "American" as free speech is, something still irks me about those who go to other countries and spew out insults against our government. To me, this is "un-American."
     
  15. Charles

    Charles New Member

    Bad business move

    The Dixie Chicks, as Americans, definitely have the right of free speech. However, when you consider who are the Dixie Chicks' customers, you have to wonder, what was she thinking.
     
  16. Charles

    Charles New Member

    Rich Douglas might start buying Dixie Chicks music.

    :D :D :D :D
     
  17. timothyrph

    timothyrph New Member

    It is truly amazing that in one thread we can debate the ousting of the previous UN inspector before Blix, and then discuss the political ideology of the Dixie Chicks. I will sum up as follows.

    I have owned Stevie Nicks albums, watched countless hours of Stevie Nicks videos. You ma'am are no Stevie Nicks. I don't care what you say about are president because no one takes you seriously anyway, but Fleetwood Mac remixes definitely cross the line of decency.
     
  18. timothyrph

    timothyrph New Member

    Sorry I meant "our President". I am tired and defending the honor of Stevie Nicks, who loves me, I just know it, she has to, she told me.:D
     
  19. Wes Grady

    Wes Grady New Member

    Ah, I think it is time to renew that Rx......

    Wes
    (who knows, deep in his heart that one day the doorbell will ring and Shania will be there waiting .... oh, yeah!)
     
  20. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Who are these people?
     
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