Who Elects These Democrat Idiots!?!

Fisrt there was Washington Senator Patty Murray's fatuous remark about how generous Bin Laden was--and the US wasn't.

Now it's Representative Marcy Kaptur of Ohio saying:

"'If you think back to our founding as a country, we are a country of revolution,' Kaptur told the Toledo Blade. 'One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown.'"

Let's puruse your analogy. Tell me, Mary--just when did the US revolutionaries attack and kill ordinary people of London?

"'My comments were intended to point out that what faces us is a rising revolution being felt across repressive regimes of the Arab and Islamic world,' she said. 'The American people understand the power of revolution. It is in that context that I referred to the American Revolution.'"

According to historian Martin Kramer, the sum total of Arab contribution to the literature on democratic politics amounts to pamphlets--and THIS is comparable to the US' Founders?

Do Democrats drink "stupifying" solution in the morning or what?
Kaptur was last reelected with 74% of the vote. Details
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,80532,00.html

Orson
(ex-lifelong Dem, Oct. 1996)

 

Orson: Who Elects These Democrat Idiots!?!

Rich: The same people who elect those Republican Assholes. They're called "Americans."

Which president used the term "strategery," and continues to mangle "nuclear" with "nucular."? A Republican Idiot, of course, the incumbent.

 

Rich,

You are quick to call Steve a punk for his brash, in-your-face, rhetoric. What is it when you do the same?

 

You guys are scaring me.......

And I thought Jean Chretien was a nerd.... I have this awful feeling that the next time I visit Washington, DC, the guy who sells hotdogs in front of the White House is going to be a retired Taliban on partial social security

 

Hmm. Rich. Last time I looked, Murray and Kaptur WERE Democrats.

(On the one hand, I register as Republican/Democrat to participate in primary races. But on the other hand, I vote Libertarian in order to avoid association with the stench of the usual results.)

And since you mention Bush by innuendo--let's simply NOT start another tired "our guy's smarter" than the guy who actually graduated from something grad level--as opposed to the one who never did...It is--how do the French say?--so passe!

--Orson

 

Okay, I gotta ask: How does one do this? I didn't know it was kosher, which is why I've never registered with either party. But I wouldn't mind registering with multiple parties--heck, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, and Green.


Cheers,

 

Perhaps Rep. Kaptur is unfamiliar with the Declaration of Independence. You know, that was the document in which our Founders listed, item-by-item, specifically what grievances they had against the Crown ("To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World."); held out respect for others, though they may not be of like mind (...a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation."); and that, like it or not we were, in fact independent ("That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES..."). [Note: I believe that the Founders included that statement, in hopes that war could be avoided, or, in other words, that the King would recognize our independence, as is. However, the king was not willing to recognize our independence, so they waged war to try to keep us in bondage to them.]

While the specific detailing of grievances alone separates the Founders from the terrorists, something even more fantastic makes the Founders and the Al Queda terrorists even more dissimilar:

The Founders did not send anonymous assasins to do their bidding. They did not try to deny their link to the revolution. They wrote the Declaration in their own hand, and what's more, they each signed their name to it. They signed their names.

The King did not have to do any detective work to determine who was behind the insurrection, or why it had happened. The King's troops did not have to go looking from cave-to-cave for the Revolution's leaders. Many of them met on the battle field.

The difference between our Founders and the Al Queda is not at all narrow. It is a vast canyon.

 

I agree with this part of your post, Rich. I don't think that either party has a monopoly on idiocy. And I don't think that the electorate of either party is superior to that of the other.

Frankly, I think that the whole party system promotes idiocy.

The public, their representatives and the media all divide up into sides as if they were at a football game.

News events and economic data are drained of significance. Nobody seems interested any longer in examining things dispassionately or in understanding their significance. Everything becomes rhetoric.

What we are left with is quasi-convincing ammo, and our only interest in it is in whether each round serves the interests of our team or the interests of the enemy.

For many years I was a registered Democrat. But the day finally came when I no longer felt welcome in that party.

So I reregistered as a Republican. Unfortunately they contain not only the libertarians that I identify with, but an element that scares me to death.

Since California law has been changed to allow independents to vote in primary elections, I have finally decided (partly in response to the religious right and partly in response to the present rush to war) to resign as a Republican and to reregister as an independent.

I no longer want to be taken for granted as a supporter of either team. If anyone wants my political support, they will just have to be convincing, as distasteful as that might be for them.

 

What is witnessed here is a Democratic strategy to retake the House of Representatives and the Senate. They still have to renounce their hatred for anything Bush without appearing un-American. They therefore send out only people who have nothing to fear of re-election. Hence the reason Teddy 'I'll drive the secretary' Kennedy is the anti-war rallying cry in the Senate. The "at risk" seats can distance themselves from remarks, and say let the UN handle it. It is just spin.

Pelofsky is safe in the House. We cannot hear from Hillary because of the Jewish population in her new home state. Take a look again at the re-election returns and you will have an answer as to why Murray can make the statement.

When called on the carpet about the tactic Democrats can only try and make disparing statements from their talking points memo on Saturday Night Live. Perhaps they can bring back Dana Carvey for their next remark.

 

As to the original question of who elects some of these people, ever seen the Jerry Springer show?

 

Well in this area I know Republicans who register as Democrats for primaries and then vote Republican in the election. The reason is simple. This area votes democratic (straight ticket) no matter what and therefore some Republicans figure they better have a hand in choosing which democrat they end up with. Then in the election they vote their conscience. My wife once was talking to a neighbor about a candidate for a particular position and issues, he told her he did not care because he voted straight democratic ticket. She asked "What about the best candidate", he replied "I trust the party to choose the best candidate". Sighhh.

North

 

Kaptur claimes that she was pointing out how people revolt against oppressive regimes: she "intended to point out that what faces us is a rising revolution being felt across repressive regimes of the Arab and Islamic world...,” Anybody else catch the nonsequitor here?

If poeple revolt against oppression, they attack the regimes under which they chafe--not those half way around the world!
(OBL has never been in the West, I'll remind those who don't know.)

Well--with a war of regime change soon underway, OBLs boy will soon find out just how "oppressive" American notions of government truly are--up close and personal!

Sometimes Allah's wishes are granted.

--Orson

 

"Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -and both commonly succeed, and are right."
H. L. Mencken

But sometimes one party helps out their opponent.
(Yes!Yes! Precisely my point.)

--Orson

 

Why, Orson, I had no idea that you were gay.

But to call someone Mary when that's not her name - that went out of vogue when the gay rights movement came into play.

Ah, yes, one of my favorites . . . I particularly liked the recent episode featuring fat Libertarian lesbian trailer trash with pierced buttholes bitch-slapping each other until the cows came home.*

I do hope everyone is keeping track - when it's time for annual awards around here, I vote for Orson to get the award for Most Irrelevant and Off-Topic Messages That Have Nothing Whatsoever to Do With Distance Education.
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* With apologies to any fat Libertarian lesbians on the board. Ah, c'mon, we must have one somewhere. Disclaimer: The term bitch-slapping is gender-inclusive. I particularly like it when guys bitch-slap each other while snapping their fingers in a circle. As long as I'm not one of them.

 

Tracy: great post!

 

Re: Re: Who Elects These Democrat Idiots!?!

 

I don't know how it works in other states, but here in MA I register as "unenrolled", which means I can take a ballot for any party during the primary elections. Besides the flexibility it allows, I prefer to not align myself with any particular party.


Bruce

 

To Steve Levicoff

Funny post, I don't agree with a lot of your posts but you seem to get it here.

My favorite on a late night replay when I could not sleep was midget hookers and pimps, with the families they broke up. Wasn't Jerry Springer the mayor of Cincinatti?

To tie it back to a DL discussion there must of have been 20 ads for GED programs and I could learn other things to start my career.

Apologies to any midget pimps and hookers who might be watching.

 

Don't be confused. My comment wasn't directed at the poster, nor his at me. He was generalizing about Democrats in a brash, aggressive manner. I did the same. The point is that neither party has a lock on virtue or smarts, nor an immunity to inanity.

Not every Democrat is Ted Kennedy, just like not every Republican is George W. Bush.

 

In Canada we have this thing called party membership.

If you want to select a candidate, you cough up $ 10.00. The Canadian Alliance Party (redneck), in my constituency, picked up $50,000.00 this way, which sure helped in the last election.

Putting their money where their mouth is keeps people on track.